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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Drifter Bob" data-source="post: 1705043" data-attributes="member: 17723">LOTR and Conan are low magicBefore I respond here, I want to point out, like molonel, I really don't care how people play.  I think at some level it is a matter of taste.  I do however think D&D as written tends toward higher magic than a lot of people can handle while retaining any degree of verisimilitude, or want to play in as a matter of taste, and I also think that D&D as is is MUCH higher magic than the source fiction.I disagree with Molonels arguments here regarding the latter issue, but that doesn't mean I feel that he can't play high or low magic games if he wants to.My point is that scrying is ok, as long as it is put at the level it should be.  It is currently too common and too available.  In LOTR, by contrast, it's quite rare.No, you don't understand me correctly.  The issue isn't whether NPC's or players have powers per se, it's at what level the power is available.  I'm sure you don't think 1st level players should be able to cast meteor swarms.  That does not mean that you think only NPC's should be able to do it or only the DM should be able to do it.  A low magic campaign merely states that powerful magic options should be rarer and should appear further up the power pyramid.I'm responding to YOUR post.  I already addressed Conan.  I'm sorry if i don't have time to respond to every single claim you made, you are rather a prolific writer!Yes, but you fail to recognize this basic fact: Sauron, Saruman, and Gandalf are the three most powerful spellcasters in the world (in fact they are spritis and super-human).  Any spellcaster in the top fifty of Greyhawk let alone Forgotten Realms could cast those spells, could in fact probably take over Middle Earth....therefore OBVIOUSLY, LOTR is obviously a much lower magic setting.And by the way, whether it's one balrog or 100 in the entire history of middle earth, whether its 10 dragons or 1000, thats still way, way, way less than any official D&D campaign setting I know of.And another point, Elric and Vances Dying Earth which are higher magic than Conan or Lankhamr or LOTR, are also lower magic than D&D.Granted. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />It shouldn't be surprising that I'm not a huge fan of Monte Cook's D&D material, at least not for actually playing, though I enjoy reading it sometimesf.DB</blockquote>

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