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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1719811" data-attributes="member: 812">Well, if you don't consider number of spellcasters to be a determining factor in deciding between low and high magic, you could have mentioned that. Might have saved us a few snarky comments.And you really, really, need to start being accurate in your statements. "A handful of cantrips"? We're talking about five first-level casters and one third-level. That's two second-level, seven first-level and ten cantrips per day from the clerics alone. Adding in the others we get two second-level, ten first-level and nineteen cantrips per day from this average crowd. That's 31 separate manifestations of magic in a 200-person village per day. Yeah, I think it's fair to say that in standard D&D, everyone witnesses or experiences magic on a near-daily basis.Which I submit is markedly different from what we see in Hyboria or Middle-Earth. As I have done from the beginning of this conversation.This is the second time you've pretended that my position has changed. You were demonstrated to be wrong the first time -- is there something to suggest you're right this time? I refer to my earlier post in which this same assertion of yours is demolished by the simple expedient of referring to the facts. My position has not changed.On the contrary, molonel, you are the one who has attempted to shift the ground of the conversation, by attributing to me statements I never said or positions I never held. I have to give you props for audacity, however -- you are surprisingly eager to accuse others of the very failings -- both of logic and of courtesy -- that your statements have demonstrated.You're willing to look at the books? Fine, then. Look at LotR and tell which community you think is more typical of the average -- Edoras or Lothlorien. Feel free to support your position with references from the text that you are so familiar with.</blockquote>

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