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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6238495" data-attributes="member: 67338">So it's OK because he didn't roll 5 18's???he has an above average in 2 out of 3 physical stats AND an 18 cha... how is that not much better then a commoner?&nbsp;and I have seen wolves, none of witch I would bet on one on one with a trained warrior...&nbsp;wtf? he has not only the wolf but class features and spells and only 2hp less then an equal fighter... if you think he is a commoner what is a rogue or fighter?so the wizard that can sleep an encounter is weak??? what are you talking about am I in bizaro world?&nbsp;the druid will also have a bunch of magic items, and doesn't need someone else to buff them...&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Yes the fighter can be cool if he has the right build and some team support... but then he is about as awesome as an average druid... give the druid a good build and team support and you don't need a fighter... 5th level druids can be bears with bear companions and summon more bears... &nbsp;why can one class feature be gain a feat and that's it well another one can be get a second set of combat stats that gets better as you level? why isn't the 1st level feature of the druid equal to a 1st level bonus feat at 1st level?Leadership is one of the 10 most powerful feats in the game... and the druid can take it too...yes the fighter has a to hit bonus over the bear, but the bear gets 3x the attacks and on average does much more damage... your right if all else was equal AND the bear was 3/4 the fighter to hit that might work... but the druid's 1st level class feature has 3 attacks at level 5 when the fighter would need to two weapon fight and throw a weapon with a -4 to all attacks to pull that off... and that is 2 feats (two weapon fighting and rapid shot)I'm not even saying &quot;Hey this one time this fighter wasn't as good&quot; or as a poster here said &quot;Snap shoting&quot; I am talking about 12 years of patterns...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6238495, member: 67338"] So it's OK because he didn't roll 5 18's??? he has an above average in 2 out of 3 physical stats AND an 18 cha... how is that not much better then a commoner? and I have seen wolves, none of witch I would bet on one on one with a trained warrior... wtf? he has not only the wolf but class features and spells and only 2hp less then an equal fighter... if you think he is a commoner what is a rogue or fighter? so the wizard that can sleep an encounter is weak??? what are you talking about am I in bizaro world? the druid will also have a bunch of magic items, and doesn't need someone else to buff them... Yes the fighter can be cool if he has the right build and some team support... but then he is about as awesome as an average druid... give the druid a good build and team support and you don't need a fighter... 5th level druids can be bears with bear companions and summon more bears... why can one class feature be gain a feat and that's it well another one can be get a second set of combat stats that gets better as you level? why isn't the 1st level feature of the druid equal to a 1st level bonus feat at 1st level? Leadership is one of the 10 most powerful feats in the game... and the druid can take it too... yes the fighter has a to hit bonus over the bear, but the bear gets 3x the attacks and on average does much more damage... your right if all else was equal AND the bear was 3/4 the fighter to hit that might work... but the druid's 1st level class feature has 3 attacks at level 5 when the fighter would need to two weapon fight and throw a weapon with a -4 to all attacks to pull that off... and that is 2 feats (two weapon fighting and rapid shot) I'm not even saying "Hey this one time this fighter wasn't as good" or as a poster here said "Snap shoting" I am talking about 12 years of patterns... [/QUOTE]

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