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<blockquote data-quote="Sage Genesis" data-source="post: 6238539" data-attributes="member: 6706099">The brown bear is really not that good of an animal companion. The ape is rather superior in every way that counts, especially because it's got a natural reach of 10' and it's Large which allows it to have a +12 grapple check. The ape has, in fact, identical BAB, strength, size, and thus grapple check of an ogre. Against lower AC opponents it will even do more damage than one. I fully expect the ape to utterly demolish this Fighter because it can just grab him by the throat from 10' away (no AoO to interrupt the grapple) and start climbing up the Empire State Building. And this is not just limited to a straight up combat comparison either. The ape has decent perception skills, scent, and low-light vision. It has a natural climb speed that makes it a better climber than giant spiders, driders, phase spiders, or aranea (yes really).The Druid can just kick back and sing &quot;welcome to the jungle&quot; as his pet ape curbstomps most opposition you might face at level 4. And again, this is one class feature of the Druid and not really the biggest one. We're not even talking about its full caster progression or (eventual) ability to turn into various kinds of monsters yet.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sage Genesis, post: 6238539, member: 6706099"] The brown bear is really not that good of an animal companion. The ape is rather superior in every way that counts, especially because it's got a natural reach of 10' and it's Large which allows it to have a +12 grapple check. The ape has, in fact, identical BAB, strength, size, and thus grapple check of an ogre. Against lower AC opponents it will even do more damage than one. I fully expect the ape to utterly demolish this Fighter because it can just grab him by the throat from 10' away (no AoO to interrupt the grapple) and start climbing up the Empire State Building. And this is not just limited to a straight up combat comparison either. The ape has decent perception skills, scent, and low-light vision. It has a natural climb speed that makes it a better climber than giant spiders, driders, phase spiders, or aranea (yes really). The Druid can just kick back and sing "welcome to the jungle" as his pet ape curbstomps most opposition you might face at level 4. And again, this is one class feature of the Druid and not really the biggest one. We're not even talking about its full caster progression or (eventual) ability to turn into various kinds of monsters yet. [/QUOTE]

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