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<blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 6238620" data-attributes="member: 2518">A perfect example of what the Op talked about.1. You always compare the effectiveness of characters to something you found on the CharOp boards which will never actually happen in regular play (and are as far away from role playing as possible)2. You always assume that the wizard has all spells ready to do your job and no better things to spend his slots on. Works theoretically on a board, but in actually play almost never happens.3. Not related with the OP but also a mistake you make again and again, you assume that the rogue is a combat class which, at least before 4E, he was only in a limited way, yes even though he had a &quot;combat ability&quot; with backstab/sneak attack. How about using a fighter for your charismatic swashbuckler? And before you start again, fighters are actually good at combat when you stop to compare them to some optimized Fighter/Ranger/Cleric/Rouge/Druid/Warblade/SomePRC from the CharOp board.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Derren, post: 6238620, member: 2518"] A perfect example of what the Op talked about. 1. You always compare the effectiveness of characters to something you found on the CharOp boards which will never actually happen in regular play (and are as far away from role playing as possible) 2. You always assume that the wizard has all spells ready to do your job and no better things to spend his slots on. Works theoretically on a board, but in actually play almost never happens. 3. Not related with the OP but also a mistake you make again and again, you assume that the rogue is a combat class which, at least before 4E, he was only in a limited way, yes even though he had a "combat ability" with backstab/sneak attack. How about using a fighter for your charismatic swashbuckler? And before you start again, fighters are actually good at combat when you stop to compare them to some optimized Fighter/Ranger/Cleric/Rouge/Druid/Warblade/SomePRC from the CharOp board. [/QUOTE]

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