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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6239810" data-attributes="member: 42582">In D&amp;D there is no &quot;how the character acts&quot; independent of his/her stats! Unless you mean simply &quot;the actions that the player declares&quot;. But in that case I can play a swashbuckler if my PC is a mage, or a 5 year old child: I just declare the action &quot;I swing from the chandalier and run him through!&quot; and it is irrelevant what my actual prospects of success are.In my view, to state this proposition is sufficient to reveal its absurdity.Yes, I noted this upthread - suggesting that Derren seemed to have changed his mind - but didn't get any very clear response.How does wanting to play a character who is both a competent fighter and a dashing rogue who wins the hearts of the lady suddenly get equated to playing &quot;a mercenary thug&quot; who nevertheless has the same &quot;impact on the mysteries of the universe&quot; as &quot;a divine being&quot;?We're talking about playing a character comparable to Zorro, Robin Hood, Han Solo, D'Artagnan, etc. If other players get to play Merlin or Dr Strange, this only makes the desire to play Zorro all the more reasonable!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6239810, member: 42582"] In D&D there is no "how the character acts" independent of his/her stats! Unless you mean simply "the actions that the player declares". But in that case I can play a swashbuckler if my PC is a mage, or a 5 year old child: I just declare the action "I swing from the chandalier and run him through!" and it is irrelevant what my actual prospects of success are. In my view, to state this proposition is sufficient to reveal its absurdity. Yes, I noted this upthread - suggesting that Derren seemed to have changed his mind - but didn't get any very clear response. How does wanting to play a character who is both a competent fighter and a dashing rogue who wins the hearts of the lady suddenly get equated to playing "a mercenary thug" who nevertheless has the same "impact on the mysteries of the universe" as "a divine being"? We're talking about playing a character comparable to Zorro, Robin Hood, Han Solo, D'Artagnan, etc. If other players get to play Merlin or Dr Strange, this only makes the desire to play Zorro all the more reasonable! [/QUOTE]

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