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Why the claim of combat and class balance between the classes is mainly a forum issue. (In my opinion)
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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6239963" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>I agree 100%, I've seen people who were playing druids prep 4 cure light wounds, and 3 cure mod wounds have an animal companion dog that they describe as a mini colly and never once roll intative, because all they plan on doing is "Hold action till someone needs healing"</p><p></p><p>That's fine. If that's what they want, but I that isn't what I've fought against.</p><p></p><p>My problem is (AND I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE RAGE QUITE OVER IT TWICE IN 3.5) when you sit down with little to no experience in the game and try to make an effective character, and don't make stupid choices, but still they don't work togather and you end up with a sucky character (By the way the one way no one can argue weaither the character suck or not is if you don't have fun with it)</p><p></p><p></p><p>again that is 100% accurate it is an example that has it's flaws.</p><p></p><p> back to my unbalanced complaint from page 9... if one PC has a 28 AC and a +16 to hit and can reliable deal 25+ damage, and another player has a 17 AC and +9 to hit and on crits rolls 20ish damage then how do you make monsters that challenge both without over loading either? </p><p>In fiction you make minons and big bosses, and black widow and cap fight aliens on the ground well hulk thor and iron man fight giant flying monsters... in game your as likely to watch black widow get mad shooting a flying monster to no effect well Hulk Great Cleaves half the minnons in one turn <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just like I've heard many people tell my friend Joe (He almost always plays fighters and almost always complains level 8+ he wants to start another level 1 game) if he would push on past the wizard, cleric, or psion was low or out of powers he would be the star of the... but he will still point to the time in 2e (before I even met him) when he did so and ran into a troll with no way to start a fire and no way to heal... He was for years (Before 4e that was a godsend to him) his own worst enemy... he only wanted to play at levels where the fighter and casters could both play without worry...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6239963, member: 67338"] I agree 100%, I've seen people who were playing druids prep 4 cure light wounds, and 3 cure mod wounds have an animal companion dog that they describe as a mini colly and never once roll intative, because all they plan on doing is "Hold action till someone needs healing" That's fine. If that's what they want, but I that isn't what I've fought against. My problem is (AND I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE RAGE QUITE OVER IT TWICE IN 3.5) when you sit down with little to no experience in the game and try to make an effective character, and don't make stupid choices, but still they don't work togather and you end up with a sucky character (By the way the one way no one can argue weaither the character suck or not is if you don't have fun with it) again that is 100% accurate it is an example that has it's flaws. back to my unbalanced complaint from page 9... if one PC has a 28 AC and a +16 to hit and can reliable deal 25+ damage, and another player has a 17 AC and +9 to hit and on crits rolls 20ish damage then how do you make monsters that challenge both without over loading either? In fiction you make minons and big bosses, and black widow and cap fight aliens on the ground well hulk thor and iron man fight giant flying monsters... in game your as likely to watch black widow get mad shooting a flying monster to no effect well Hulk Great Cleaves half the minnons in one turn :erm: Just like I've heard many people tell my friend Joe (He almost always plays fighters and almost always complains level 8+ he wants to start another level 1 game) if he would push on past the wizard, cleric, or psion was low or out of powers he would be the star of the... but he will still point to the time in 2e (before I even met him) when he did so and ran into a troll with no way to start a fire and no way to heal... He was for years (Before 4e that was a godsend to him) his own worst enemy... he only wanted to play at levels where the fighter and casters could both play without worry... [/QUOTE]
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