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Why the claim of combat and class balance between the classes is mainly a forum issue. (In my opinion)
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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6241137" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>It is (perhaps was - the messageboards are now shut down) a site for indie RPG design. I believe it evolved out of the Gaming Outpost.</p><p></p><p>It is probably the preeminent influence on contemporary RPG design. The most prominent Forge designer would be Vincent Baker (Dogs in the Vineyard), who appears in the acknowledgements for games ranging from Burning Wheel to Marvel Heroic Roleplaying.</p><p></p><p>Here is <a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?194448-Mike-Mearls-is-a-God-Damned-Genius&p=4024472#post4024472" target="_blank">Mike Mearls on The Forge</a>:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">The simple truth is that few in the gaming industry put any real, useful thought into their work. The Forge is really the crucible for a lot of the real examination and exploration of the underlying structure of RPGs. Outside of the Forge, there are few other designers who think of games in a useful, interesting way. . .</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">It's the sort of thing that you have to go look at and judge for yourself. I find it a bit too steeped in jargon, but a lot of the end ideas are useful to think about in terms of my work.</p><p></p><p>I think that Mearls was involved in the Gaming Outpost but not in The Forge.</p><p></p><p>The Forge is not anti-D&D at all. You can find plenty of discussion of D&D play on their boards. Ron Edwards, the designer who set up the site, was a player of OD&D back in the day. And Vincent Baker has written adventures for Lamentations of the Flame Princess, which is a "weird fantasy" Basic D&D variant retro-clone.</p><p></p><p>The Forge <em>is </em>generally hostile to AD&D 2nd ed for the same reasons they are hostile to White Wolf's storyteller games, but 90s "storyteller" RPGing is hardly exhaustive of D&D or D&D players.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6241137, member: 42582"] It is (perhaps was - the messageboards are now shut down) a site for indie RPG design. I believe it evolved out of the Gaming Outpost. It is probably the preeminent influence on contemporary RPG design. The most prominent Forge designer would be Vincent Baker (Dogs in the Vineyard), who appears in the acknowledgements for games ranging from Burning Wheel to Marvel Heroic Roleplaying. Here is [url=http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?194448-Mike-Mearls-is-a-God-Damned-Genius&p=4024472#post4024472]Mike Mearls on The Forge[/url]: [indent]The simple truth is that few in the gaming industry put any real, useful thought into their work. The Forge is really the crucible for a lot of the real examination and exploration of the underlying structure of RPGs. Outside of the Forge, there are few other designers who think of games in a useful, interesting way. . . It's the sort of thing that you have to go look at and judge for yourself. I find it a bit too steeped in jargon, but a lot of the end ideas are useful to think about in terms of my work.[/indent] I think that Mearls was involved in the Gaming Outpost but not in The Forge. The Forge is not anti-D&D at all. You can find plenty of discussion of D&D play on their boards. Ron Edwards, the designer who set up the site, was a player of OD&D back in the day. And Vincent Baker has written adventures for Lamentations of the Flame Princess, which is a "weird fantasy" Basic D&D variant retro-clone. The Forge [I]is [/I]generally hostile to AD&D 2nd ed for the same reasons they are hostile to White Wolf's storyteller games, but 90s "storyteller" RPGing is hardly exhaustive of D&D or D&D players. [/QUOTE]
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