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<blockquote data-quote="Ratskinner" data-source="post: 6242322" data-attributes="member: 6688937">I will say that I have on several occasions. I was running a 2e campaign that just about imploded because of a Bladesinger, and more recently I saw a homebrew OSR game collapse because of a horribly broken Dwarf class. There have been others.I certainly agree that attempting to create some sort of &quot;perfect&quot; balance would be impossible to do with a game like D&amp;D which is serving so many different playstyles and game types.* However, I don't think much is actually gained by abandoning the idea of balance entirely. Certainly a sort of general balance amongst the (at least core 4) classes is possible, IMO.*If we knew that all D&amp;D was being played as &quot;dungeon porn&quot; with very little plot and activity outside of highly gamist dungeoncrawling, that would be different. </blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ratskinner, post: 6242322, member: 6688937"] I will say that I have on several occasions. I was running a 2e campaign that just about imploded because of a Bladesinger, and more recently I saw a homebrew OSR game collapse because of a horribly broken Dwarf class. There have been others. I certainly agree that attempting to create some sort of "perfect" balance would be impossible to do with a game like D&D which is serving so many different playstyles and game types.* However, I don't think much is actually gained by abandoning the idea of balance entirely. Certainly a sort of general balance amongst the (at least core 4) classes is possible, IMO. [SIZE=1]*If we knew that all D&D was being played as "dungeon porn" with very little plot and activity outside of highly gamist dungeoncrawling, that would be different. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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