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<blockquote data-quote="Luce" data-source="post: 6242781" data-attributes="member: 29760">From SRD:&quot;[h=3]Suffocation[/h]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; A character who has no air to breathe can hold her breath for 2 rounds&nbsp; per point of Constitution. After this period of time, the character must&nbsp; make a DC 10 Constitution check in order to continue holding her&nbsp; breath. The save must be repeated each round, with the DC increasing by&nbsp; +1 for each previous success. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; When the character fails one of these Constitution checks, she begins to suffocate. In the first round, she falls <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/conditionSummary.htm#unconscious" target="_blank">unconscious</a> (0 hit points). In the following round, she drops to -1 hit points and is <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/conditionSummary.htm#dying" target="_blank">dying</a>. In the third round, she suffocates.&quot;CR24 red dragon has Con 31, so he can wait 67 round before being in danger of dropping (31*2+5 for (+15 modifier)Therefore the Big Red could wait out the spell choking him. Also if PCs are sniping him from safe distance all out defense would be a logical choice. Also considering high INT(24) the dragon may well be aware of &quot;tracheotomy&quot; and has some idea how to go about it.Now I do not dislike what you did, the players had fun, felt clever and did not get a disproportionate reward out of the incident. I comes down to my believe that every table have its own style to some extend and it is up to the individual GM to customize his/her game to the group.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Luce, post: 6242781, member: 29760"] From SRD: " [h=3]Suffocation[/h] A character who has no air to breathe can hold her breath for 2 rounds per point of Constitution. After this period of time, the character must make a DC 10 Constitution check in order to continue holding her breath. The save must be repeated each round, with the DC increasing by +1 for each previous success. When the character fails one of these Constitution checks, she begins to suffocate. In the first round, she falls [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/conditionSummary.htm#unconscious"]unconscious[/URL] (0 hit points). In the following round, she drops to -1 hit points and is [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/conditionSummary.htm#dying"]dying[/URL]. In the third round, she suffocates. " CR24 red dragon has Con 31, so he can wait 67 round before being in danger of dropping (31*2+5 for (+15 modifier) Therefore the Big Red could wait out the spell choking him. Also if PCs are sniping him from safe distance all out defense would be a logical choice. Also considering high INT(24) the dragon may well be aware of "tracheotomy" and has some idea how to go about it. Now I do not dislike what you did, the players had fun, felt clever and did not get a disproportionate reward out of the incident. I comes down to my believe that every table have its own style to some extend and it is up to the individual GM to customize his/her game to the group. [/QUOTE]

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