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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6243812" data-attributes="member: 2525">You don't see the irony of this statement. YOU are the one that told people that THEIR experiences were myths.&nbsp; YOU are the one that told people that their opinions on the forums &quot;don't count&quot;.&nbsp; And now you're complaining?No, sorry, if this rubs you the wrong way, now you know how others felt when reading this thread title and your original post.&nbsp; You told them, &quot;but that doesn't count, because it's not my experience it's just yours, and your experience doesn't count because you're posting to a forum, unlike my experience which I am also posting to a forum but somehow that one counts and yours does not&quot;.No, lets not argue by analogy.&nbsp; It often isn't helpful.&nbsp; It's helpful when someone doesn't understand something obscure that you're saying and there is a need to relate it to something more common so everyone understands.&nbsp; But, we all understand what you're saying, so let's not do the analogy thing.&nbsp; We get it, you think your experiences are more representative of the total body of D&amp;D players than our experiences.You, a poster to internet forums, told others your experience.&nbsp; You then also told them that, because they are posters to an internet forum, their experiences don't count.&nbsp; It's a vapid, vacuous argument.&nbsp; It's obviously not a good argument - because you're just one of the very same people you're saying don't count.&nbsp; You are the very &quot;internet forum poster's opinion&quot; that you are dismissing.&nbsp; If anecdotal evidence is good (and that is what you are arguing, that your anecdotal evidence is good evidence), then MORE anecdotal evidence would be good too.&nbsp; And you're getting that.&nbsp; A whole bunch of people gave you their anecdotal evidence in this thread, and much of theirs runs contrary to yours. And their opinions come from across the nation and even overseas.&nbsp; And their opinions come from all age groups, including people who have played more years than you have.&nbsp; And their opinions come from groups of players with backgrounds that differ from the backgrounds you have experience with.&nbsp; By any measure, if anecdotal evidence is a good way to draw conclusions on this topic, then you'd be taking in all those other experiences people are reporting and questioning your own conclusion.But you're not questioning your conclusion.&nbsp; All you are doing is doubling down on telling others that their experiences don't count (because they are posting to an internet forum) and that your experiences do count (despite the fact you are also posting to an internet forum).It makes no sense.&nbsp; At this point, if getting to the truth on this topic were your primary goal, you'd be at least vaguely questioning your conclusions.&nbsp; But you're not.&nbsp; You're just repeating your experiences and telling us why our experiences don't count, in a variety of ways, over and over again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6243812, member: 2525"] You don't see the irony of this statement. YOU are the one that told people that THEIR experiences were myths. YOU are the one that told people that their opinions on the forums "don't count". And now you're complaining? No, sorry, if this rubs you the wrong way, now you know how others felt when reading this thread title and your original post. You told them, "but that doesn't count, because it's not my experience it's just yours, and your experience doesn't count because you're posting to a forum, unlike my experience which I am also posting to a forum but somehow that one counts and yours does not". No, lets not argue by analogy. It often isn't helpful. It's helpful when someone doesn't understand something obscure that you're saying and there is a need to relate it to something more common so everyone understands. But, we all understand what you're saying, so let's not do the analogy thing. We get it, you think your experiences are more representative of the total body of D&D players than our experiences. You, a poster to internet forums, told others your experience. You then also told them that, because they are posters to an internet forum, their experiences don't count. It's a vapid, vacuous argument. It's obviously not a good argument - because you're just one of the very same people you're saying don't count. You are the very "internet forum poster's opinion" that you are dismissing. If anecdotal evidence is good (and that is what you are arguing, that your anecdotal evidence is good evidence), then MORE anecdotal evidence would be good too. And you're getting that. A whole bunch of people gave you their anecdotal evidence in this thread, and much of theirs runs contrary to yours. And their opinions come from across the nation and even overseas. And their opinions come from all age groups, including people who have played more years than you have. And their opinions come from groups of players with backgrounds that differ from the backgrounds you have experience with. By any measure, if anecdotal evidence is a good way to draw conclusions on this topic, then you'd be taking in all those other experiences people are reporting and questioning your own conclusion. But you're not questioning your conclusion. All you are doing is doubling down on telling others that their experiences don't count (because they are posting to an internet forum) and that your experiences do count (despite the fact you are also posting to an internet forum). It makes no sense. At this point, if getting to the truth on this topic were your primary goal, you'd be at least vaguely questioning your conclusions. But you're not. You're just repeating your experiences and telling us why our experiences don't count, in a variety of ways, over and over again. [/QUOTE]

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