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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6244991" data-attributes="member: 17106">What is a level 17 character of any class doing in a dungeon or an inn?That sounds like a waste of spell slots. Why not save them and wait a few extra rounds while the fighter mows down this apparently token opponent? Surely he can't get attack rolls that low every time. The ability of the spellcaster to waste limited resources on quickly eliminating non-threatening opposition doesn't prove much.Shouldn't the fighter say something more like &quot;call me back whenever we face a real challenge?&quot;***But back to that first point. If you're fighting rudimentary battles with scaled up numbers and traveling to stone tunnels that allow teleportation and fighting enemies that somehow have great AC but no defenses against magic, your DM has no comprehension of what high level play is about. What's the point of having these books full of rules if the DM isn't willing to use them?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 6244991, member: 17106"] What is a level 17 character of any class doing in a dungeon or an inn? That sounds like a waste of spell slots. Why not save them and wait a few extra rounds while the fighter mows down this apparently token opponent? Surely he can't get attack rolls that low every time. The ability of the spellcaster to waste limited resources on quickly eliminating non-threatening opposition doesn't prove much. Shouldn't the fighter say something more like "call me back whenever we face a real challenge?" *** But back to that first point. If you're fighting rudimentary battles with scaled up numbers and traveling to stone tunnels that allow teleportation and fighting enemies that somehow have great AC but no defenses against magic, your DM has no comprehension of what high level play is about. What's the point of having these books full of rules if the DM isn't willing to use them? [/QUOTE]

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