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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6247492" data-attributes="member: 463">I wouldn't say it was crystal-clear; in the 4e PHB there is a combat example of an 8th level PC with a +1 weapon. Elsewhere the game rather gives the impression that 8th level PCs should have +2 weapons by default, perhaps with an occasional +3 - since the first level 11 items start appearing when PCs are 7th level, according to the treasure tables. And Enchant Item lets 6th level PCs create their own +2 gear, but they need enough money to do so. Then DMG2 gives +2 Inherent attack bonus at 7th level.I guess one could say there is a pretty clear expectation within about a 5-level spread: by 5th level PCs should have +1 items, by 10th level +2, by 15th level +3, 20th +4, 25th +5, and 30th +6? Again it doesn't actually say this in so many words. It's actually less prescriptive than 3e WBL in some ways, since the 3e system gives players near carte blanche on what to buy. Perhaps the strongest 'metagame player entitlement' in 4e is the explicit 'wish list'? An obligation on the GM that the PCs find in-world the gear the players have requested OOC? Naturally I don't use them. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 6247492, member: 463"] I wouldn't say it was crystal-clear; in the 4e PHB there is a combat example of an 8th level PC with a +1 weapon. Elsewhere the game rather gives the impression that 8th level PCs should have +2 weapons by default, perhaps with an occasional +3 - since the first level 11 items start appearing when PCs are 7th level, according to the treasure tables. And Enchant Item lets 6th level PCs create their own +2 gear, but they need enough money to do so. Then DMG2 gives +2 Inherent attack bonus at 7th level. I guess one could say there is a pretty clear expectation within about a 5-level spread: by 5th level PCs should have +1 items, by 10th level +2, by 15th level +3, 20th +4, 25th +5, and 30th +6? Again it doesn't actually say this in so many words. It's actually less prescriptive than 3e WBL in some ways, since the 3e system gives players near carte blanche on what to buy. Perhaps the strongest 'metagame player entitlement' in 4e is the explicit 'wish list'? An obligation on the GM that the PCs find in-world the gear the players have requested OOC? Naturally I don't use them. :lol: [/QUOTE]

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