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<blockquote data-quote="herrozerro" data-source="post: 6252189" data-attributes="member: 86211">I'd like to call shenanigans on this.&nbsp; At least as far as 3.5 is concerned.3.5 PHB p4You character is an adventurer, a hero who sets out on epic quests for fortune and glory.&nbsp; Other characters join your adventuring party to explore dungeons and battle monsters such as the terrible dragon or the carnivorous troll. Sounds like in 3.5 you can't be an adventurer without being 1. A hero.&nbsp; 2. out for fame or glory.&nbsp; But since we all know that we can't read as literal as that.&nbsp; Why don't we cut the crap about 4e suddenly changing the name of the game.4e PHB1 p8&quot;As a player, you create a character—a heroic adventurer.This adventurer is part of a team that delvesinto dungeons, battles monsters, and explores theworld’s dark wilderness.&quot;They are practically the same, so lets drop the attacks against 4e, how it somehow changed the fundamental nature of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="herrozerro, post: 6252189, member: 86211"] I'd like to call shenanigans on this. At least as far as 3.5 is concerned. 3.5 PHB p4 You character is an adventurer, a [B]hero[/B] who sets out on epic quests for fortune and glory. Other characters join your adventuring party to explore dungeons and battle monsters such as the terrible dragon or the carnivorous troll. Sounds like in 3.5 you can't be an adventurer without being 1. A hero. 2. out for fame or glory. But since we all know that we can't read as literal as that. Why don't we cut the crap about 4e suddenly changing the name of the game. 4e PHB1 p8 "As a player, you create a character—a heroic adventurer.This adventurer is part of a team that delves into dungeons, battles monsters, and explores the world’s dark wilderness." They are practically the same, so lets drop the attacks against 4e, how it somehow changed the fundamental nature of the game. [/QUOTE]

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