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<blockquote data-quote="Thresher" data-source="post: 1068726" data-attributes="member: 9983">After the recent morass of nerfings, dumpings and other sundry effects that &quot;could be/is/maybe abused&quot; and someone's idea out there in the D20 design team that it all must be &quot;balanced&quot; otherwise people will whine. Do you honestly think that they'd let such material out in the hands of potential min-maxers/muchkins and a whole host of nasty names used to describe someone thats a rules rapist?At the moment I think D20 is just going through a phase of making the system as bulletproof as possible to make it easier to GM and play for what they see as a pack of immature newb consumers who dont have any restraint otherwise.However, they have managed to put out bugger all in the way of actual 'role playing' material so the chances of anyone treating the characters in game as being anything more than stats on paper in a big 1' wargame battlemap with dice are a repercussion we'll see about in a few years I guess when they all realise its kinda boring when its played that way.* I quite like &quot;adds-disads&quot; in roleplaying games provided they arent used as a tool to &quot;build a better bastard&quot; and can make a character somewhat unique when written well.*Yes, Thresher is a bitter old prick.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thresher, post: 1068726, member: 9983"] After the recent morass of nerfings, dumpings and other sundry effects that "could be/is/maybe abused" and someone's idea out there in the D20 design team that it all must be "balanced" otherwise people will whine. Do you honestly think that they'd let such material out in the hands of potential min-maxers/muchkins and a whole host of nasty names used to describe someone thats a rules rapist? At the moment I think D20 is just going through a phase of making the system as bulletproof as possible to make it easier to GM and play for what they see as a pack of immature newb consumers who dont have any restraint otherwise. However, they have managed to put out bugger all in the way of actual 'role playing' material so the chances of anyone treating the characters in game as being anything more than stats on paper in a big 1' wargame battlemap with dice are a repercussion we'll see about in a few years I guess when they all realise its kinda boring when its played that way.* I quite like "adds-disads" in roleplaying games provided they arent used as a tool to "build a better bastard" and can make a character somewhat unique when written well. *Yes, Thresher is a bitter old prick. [/QUOTE]

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