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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7628479" data-attributes="member: 6880599">I had a GM that did. He also felt that applied to weapons even though it didn't say so when I multi-classed rogue so I had find wood from a D&amp;D Quebracho tree (aka Axe Breaker Tree) to make daggers that wouldn't NORMALLY break in combat and use mending to fix them when they did. Add to that my old GM would take my agency away and prevent me from putting my hand in fire and burning myself if it meant that the his story telling went the way he wanted or I would some how benefit from doing so by saving that burning clue in time to solve a puzzle extra. If I would just get burned he would have allowed it and laughed at me for the &quot;stupid attempt&quot;.I only mention this to say I understand the OPs points and agree. Your statement that its not a big deal as you said is based on your experience. However, seeing it go bad even once you can see how the removal or official errata clarifying it mechanically would improve those debates. I did stop playing under my controlling GM but GMs trying to control players or doubling down on a rule that's getting in the way instead aiming for fun is not a new thing to roleplaying and it pops up even with better GMs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7628479, member: 6880599"] I had a GM that did. He also felt that applied to weapons even though it didn't say so when I multi-classed rogue so I had find wood from a D&D Quebracho tree (aka Axe Breaker Tree) to make daggers that wouldn't NORMALLY break in combat and use mending to fix them when they did. Add to that my old GM would take my agency away and prevent me from putting my hand in fire and burning myself if it meant that the his story telling went the way he wanted or I would some how benefit from doing so by saving that burning clue in time to solve a puzzle extra. If I would just get burned he would have allowed it and laughed at me for the "stupid attempt". I only mention this to say I understand the OPs points and agree. Your statement that its not a big deal as you said is based on your experience. However, seeing it go bad even once you can see how the removal or official errata clarifying it mechanically would improve those debates. I did stop playing under my controlling GM but GMs trying to control players or doubling down on a rule that's getting in the way instead aiming for fun is not a new thing to roleplaying and it pops up even with better GMs. [/QUOTE]

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