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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3188354" data-attributes="member: 2011">An issue with MD is that the DM can screw you badly without intending to.But, the main issue with MD is that the DM will almost definitely screw the fighter types and hardly harm the spell casting types. Again, he might do this unintentionally.A 20th level Cleric without PrCs might have a Will save in the range of about +27. With a few PrCs, +30.MD for a Wizard with a 30 Int has a DC of 29. The Cleric will often save 95% of the time.A 20th level Fighter with or without PrCs (since most PrCs do not add to Will saves) might have a Will save of about +12 to +15. He can easily lose 60% to 80% of his items.One class might lose at most 10% of his items and the other might lose at most 80%.This is extremely skewed and can easily result in unintended massive screwing over of some PCs by the DM with a single spell.</blockquote>