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Why the fear and hatred of Disjunction?
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<blockquote data-quote="Quartz" data-source="post: 3189209" data-attributes="member: 40552"><p>Now that's a reasonable issue, on the face of it, but I don't believe it stands up to scrutiny. The fighter-types can take feats (e.g. Iron Will, Force of Personality) or dips in other classes (e.g. Monk, Knight - a 2 level dip in Knight gives you +3 Will and no loss to BAB) to boost their Will saves. A Ftr 16 / Kt 2 / Mk 2 has a base Will save of +11 and a BAB of +19</p><p></p><p>If Disjunction is cast from an item, then it gets cast as INT 19, Level 17, for a DC of 23. Not nearly so bad. Consider a Ftr 6 / Kt 2. His base Will save is +5, he'll have a couple of +3 items and buffs to add to his save for a total save of +11, or more. So he can expect to lose half his gear, probably less. That's without feats or bonus from stats. Consider a Paladin 6 / Kt 2 with Cha 16. His base Will save is +8. Again, add in items and buffs - particularly Eagle's Splendour - and his will save is going to be +16 or more. Again, without feats or bonus from stats. So he can expect to lose a quarter or less of his items. Which, of course, will be made good once they've plundered the BBEG's treasury.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quartz, post: 3189209, member: 40552"] Now that's a reasonable issue, on the face of it, but I don't believe it stands up to scrutiny. The fighter-types can take feats (e.g. Iron Will, Force of Personality) or dips in other classes (e.g. Monk, Knight - a 2 level dip in Knight gives you +3 Will and no loss to BAB) to boost their Will saves. A Ftr 16 / Kt 2 / Mk 2 has a base Will save of +11 and a BAB of +19 If Disjunction is cast from an item, then it gets cast as INT 19, Level 17, for a DC of 23. Not nearly so bad. Consider a Ftr 6 / Kt 2. His base Will save is +5, he'll have a couple of +3 items and buffs to add to his save for a total save of +11, or more. So he can expect to lose half his gear, probably less. That's without feats or bonus from stats. Consider a Paladin 6 / Kt 2 with Cha 16. His base Will save is +8. Again, add in items and buffs - particularly Eagle's Splendour - and his will save is going to be +16 or more. Again, without feats or bonus from stats. So he can expect to lose a quarter or less of his items. Which, of course, will be made good once they've plundered the BBEG's treasury. [/QUOTE]
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