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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3192728" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>It is just a lot more work for a DM.</p><p></p><p>If MD is being thrown around, the DM is already handling extremely high level NPCs.</p><p></p><p>Handling modifications of high level PC character sheets as well (it is not just items that are disjoined, but spells as well) would be an additional burden. The DM handling all of this has to <strong>by definition</strong> slow down a game.</p><p></p><p>Now, the DM could get away with not having to handle the spells if the PCs were aware that MD got cast (and know its effects). Otherwise, it would appear to be not much different than a Greater Dispel Magic in the eyes of the PCs and the DM would have to handle all of it. But, the DM would still have to handle the items if he is keeping secret which items are destroyed.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, it is possible that the PCs would cast more spells in future rounds after the MD and the DM would have to handle those as well.</p><p></p><p>It's one thing to add bonuses and penalties to NPC abilities as combat proceeds for a DM. It's a different thing for the DM to do that for the NPCs and the PCs as well. PCs tend to be a lot more complex than most NPCs (except for the BBEG and possibly a few of his most powerful henchmen).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Even if the DM were super organized and kept track of all of the PC spells cast before and after MD was cast and he rolled ahead of time to see which PC items got destroyed (he could roll this for all PCs and then just handle the PCs who were actually in the area of effect) and he had modified PC character sheets made up ahead of time, it would still slow down the game for him to keep track of PC abilities (and of course, some NPCs might get caught in the radius as well).</p><p></p><p>This spell is a total pain in the butt to run in combat.</p><p></p><p>Although I too always had copies of PC character sheets when DMing that I could bring out if necessary in a game, that's a lot of paper to be flipping through every round while running a combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3192728, member: 2011"] It is just a lot more work for a DM. If MD is being thrown around, the DM is already handling extremely high level NPCs. Handling modifications of high level PC character sheets as well (it is not just items that are disjoined, but spells as well) would be an additional burden. The DM handling all of this has to [b]by definition[/b] slow down a game. Now, the DM could get away with not having to handle the spells if the PCs were aware that MD got cast (and know its effects). Otherwise, it would appear to be not much different than a Greater Dispel Magic in the eyes of the PCs and the DM would have to handle all of it. But, the DM would still have to handle the items if he is keeping secret which items are destroyed. Additionally, it is possible that the PCs would cast more spells in future rounds after the MD and the DM would have to handle those as well. It's one thing to add bonuses and penalties to NPC abilities as combat proceeds for a DM. It's a different thing for the DM to do that for the NPCs and the PCs as well. PCs tend to be a lot more complex than most NPCs (except for the BBEG and possibly a few of his most powerful henchmen). Even if the DM were super organized and kept track of all of the PC spells cast before and after MD was cast and he rolled ahead of time to see which PC items got destroyed (he could roll this for all PCs and then just handle the PCs who were actually in the area of effect) and he had modified PC character sheets made up ahead of time, it would still slow down the game for him to keep track of PC abilities (and of course, some NPCs might get caught in the radius as well). This spell is a total pain in the butt to run in combat. Although I too always had copies of PC character sheets when DMing that I could bring out if necessary in a game, that's a lot of paper to be flipping through every round while running a combat. [/QUOTE]
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