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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3201621" data-attributes="member: 31734">Let's drum up some numbers to see if you're correct (I don't recall you previously pointing this out, but long thread...hope you understand).Assumption that the bad guy has MD and uses, we have to call this 100% otherwise we have no analysis.&nbsp; Let's use CL 20 (in your favor), though it could be lower.Chance of the party have an artifact: let's call it 99% at this level.Chance of the artifact(s) being out in the open and the possessor being in the area of effect: 90% (I think this is fair).Chance of it being disjoined: 20%.Chance of failing the Will save: 5% (natural 1 for a CL 20 wizard/sorcerer).The total probability is then .99 * .9 * .2 * .05 = .00891 = 0.9%.&nbsp; I believe you can add this up for multiple items, so give 4 party members each one and you get 3.6%.Even if you use 100% for the first two chances, you get only 1%.&nbsp; It's never as close as 10%.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 3201621, member: 31734"] Let's drum up some numbers to see if you're correct (I don't recall you previously pointing this out, but long thread...hope you understand). Assumption that the bad guy has MD and uses, we have to call this 100% otherwise we have no analysis. Let's use CL 20 (in your favor), though it could be lower. Chance of the party have an artifact: let's call it 99% at this level. Chance of the artifact(s) being out in the open and the possessor being in the area of effect: 90% (I think this is fair). Chance of it being disjoined: 20%. Chance of failing the Will save: 5% (natural 1 for a CL 20 wizard/sorcerer). The total probability is then .99 * .9 * .2 * .05 = .00891 = 0.9%. I believe you can add this up for multiple items, so give 4 party members each one and you get 3.6%. Even if you use 100% for the first two chances, you get only 1%. It's never as close as 10%. [/QUOTE]

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