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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pants" data-source="post: 1576639" data-attributes="member: 8849">Now your mentioning an entire genre of anime right there, one that I find annoying and way overdone in anything more than very small doses.  But, hey that's taste for you.I like anime.  I started to like it when I was getting sick of the kiddy nature of american animation.  I especially never liked half of the squiggly drawn shows on Nickelodeon that were all the rage when I got into Anime.  I also disliked the constant barrage of gross out crap that was infecting animation, along with the extremely episodic quality of it all.  There were some good American shows that I liked, such as Batman, Exo-Squad, Spiderman, and X-Men to name a few, but i was always bothered by how everyone seemed to skirt the more mature issues in the shows.  When a helicopter crashed, everyone managed to get out in time, tanks crashing would only knock the pilots out and that sort of crap.Then I watched anime, starting with DBZ.  Yes, DBZ.  I started watching in the later Freeza episodes, so death was being thrown around rather casually.  The fighting was over-the-top and nothing like I had ever seen before.  Basically, I began to watch anime because it was more mature.  Not all of it mind you, but the stuff I did watch, didn't skirt around some issues like American shows did.I really enjoy Berserk, Hellsing, Wolf's Rain, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, and Inu Yasha.  Berserk is about as far from typical anime as you can get and Cowboy Bebop is probably about as western as you're going to get.Now, I don't mind people who 'hate' anime, I don't like people who use 'anime' as a catch-all term for everything they do hate.  Example:"I hate the anime art in 3rd edition!"1st of all, this person has two things going wrong for him.  He's ignorant and he's an idiot, plus he probably has no clue about what anime art actually is.  Not all anime is spikey-goth-dungeon/spike/leather fetish stuff that everyone seems to associate with 3rd edition (I don't, but it's another handy catch-all term), thus the comment is foolish.  Ignorance annoys me, even when its so blatant.  I don't really mind if your 'hate of 3rd edition art knows no limit,' but don't try to justify it by saying its anime.  It's not.  Some of it is inspired by anime, just like some 1st edition stuff looked like superhero comic book drawings (Jeff Dee, I'm looking at you), but I don't here anyone complaining about a superhero muscle fetish of 1st edition, mainly because such a claim is ignorant and foolish.That is all.Thank you.</blockquote>

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