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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7570545" data-attributes="member: 6775031">It seems to me that you're conflating cause and effect, when they are really two different variables. You're saying that the cause is good, just because the effect is good. I'm saying that the effect is good if the effect is good, and the cause is something we have to deal with; if we could get the same effect, without investing as much into the cause, then that would be preferable.Doing work is good, because it gets stuff done. If you could get stuff done without doing work, then that would be preferable. Work, by itself, does not justify its own existence (unless you're into that sort of thing). The real value is in the results.In order to maximize the elegance of a system, you should minimize the amount of complexity that's required to achieve your desired result. Complexity is bad, in the same way that cost is bad when you're designing a computer. If you could build your super deluxe computer without spending any money, then that would be ideal, although reality will probably fall short of that ideal by a considerable ways.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7570545, member: 6775031"] It seems to me that you're conflating cause and effect, when they are really two different variables. You're saying that the cause is good, just because the effect is good. I'm saying that the effect is good if the effect is good, and the cause is something we have to deal with; if we could get the same effect, without investing as much into the cause, then that would be preferable. Doing work is good, because it gets stuff done. If you could get stuff done without doing work, then that would be preferable. Work, by itself, does not justify its own existence (unless you're into that sort of thing). The real value is in the results. In order to maximize the elegance of a system, you should minimize the amount of complexity that's required to achieve your desired result. Complexity is bad, in the same way that cost is bad when you're designing a computer. If you could build your super deluxe computer without spending any money, then that would be ideal, although reality will probably fall short of that ideal by a considerable ways. [/QUOTE]

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