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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Humanophile" data-source="post: 16378" data-attributes="member: 1049">I don't hate the FR, I just have a stronger-than-average distaste for it.  The reason for that bit is because the realms is set as a higher than average power setting, and I remember from my late 2e days people picking over the realms books for the kit/priesthood/spell that would give them that much more oomph.  So I dislike it for being a munchkins paradise, but that's more the fault of the munchkins than the setting.  (Insert standard disclaimer, high power is not bad in and of itself, but the power level needs to be built into the game and genre.  Which leads to my next point...)It's a high powered, morally definite setting.  I find that newer, more casual players tend to go for that, while more in-depth players prefer something a little more gritty and gray.  (That's just a general observation, not an overall truism, but black and white cuts out many more options than it opens.)High powered NPC's, while certainly realistic, diminish the urgency of many adventures.  You may die, but Elminster will keep that evil cult from actually calling in a hoarde of demons.I personally find many of the groups to be shallow and stereotyped, but I haven't read up on everything, just some sourcebooks, adventures, and what I've seen from players/DM's of varying quality.  And while most of the NPC's aren't much worse than what your average campaign dredges up, the hoarde of copycats grates strongly.  Drizzt would be far more tolerable if he didn't herald a deluge of drow, especially good drow, drow rangers, and good dual-scimitar wielding drow rangers large enough to outnumber the evil, subterranian drow.And, like many other people pointed out, there's too much for people to keep up on, and munchkin types are the most likely to have every applicable book out there, so more reasonable DM's have too many bad associations.</blockquote>

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