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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Renshai" data-source="post: 19973" data-attributes="member: 1061">The is correct, but there are Epic Characters in other campaigns, and there are people out there that want Epic Rules for their own campaigns. The FR Setting alone did not drive the creation of these rules. Elminster in his short stubby tower is not a defining characteristic. Sure he is paraded about as the primary expert on Realmslore, but his importance ends there. Just because WotC decides to use him in such a visible manner  doesn’t mean we as players or DMs have to do so.   If you wanted to run a campaign that was set in Shadowdale (and I’ve had a few) and things got out of hand inside the Dale, you need not expect Elminster to show up and solve problems. I imagine his attitude would simply be one of “wait and see”. Or , let the young whippersnappers handle these problems…Excellent points, all. But it really is simple to leave everyone of those NPCs out those scenarios, with very little effort as well. If you want to run a campaign based around the Shades plotline, simply don’t let Khelben and Lady Laerl get involved. Maybe Laerl was seduced by the Crown of Horns again… there are always simple ways to do things like that.Perhaps if Silverymoon fell under attack from an Orc Horde Drizzt would come to help. His help does not mean your player characters are ineffectual. If your characters ranged in the level 17 range they would make a hell of a bigger difference than Drizzt would.  Keeping them in different parts of that way, on different fronts would be easy. Or perhaps Drizzt is away in the south trying to rid himself of Crenshinibon, or hunting pirates on the Sea of Swords. If PC asked, “Well why doesn’t Drizzt show up and kill them all?”. My answer would be, “Hrmm, I don’t know. You would have to go find him and ask him.”With the standardization of Epic Rules in the upcoming book, high level characters stealing the spotlight from PCs is no longer a problem. Attaining those power levels is simply a matter of surviving and sticking with a campaign for a couple of years….Ren</blockquote>

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