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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5349522" data-attributes="member: 22779">The danger with that though is that you further split your consumer base.&nbsp; While AD&amp;D and B/E D&amp;D were compatable, I know from anecdote at least, that lots of people refused to &quot;cross the streams&quot;, as it were.&nbsp; They'd buy whichever supplement fit their system and ignored everything for the other system.I have no idea how much cross pollination was going on, but, that's certainly a concern with creating a &quot;full&quot; game split off from the core game.&nbsp; I could also see it diluting the brand as well.&nbsp; One setting is for X D&amp;D, and the other setting is for Y D&amp;D.&nbsp; Is it all D&amp;D?&nbsp; Maybe.&nbsp; In the eyes of the consumer though?&nbsp; Probably not.&nbsp; Not saying you're wrong.&nbsp; Just putting out a possible reason why this might not have flown.Now this?&nbsp; This I totally understand.&nbsp; I've just spent the last year hopping between a bunch of different systems.&nbsp; Five or so different systems, three different DM's, plus myself, just to shake off the cobwebs.&nbsp; Like you, I'd played the crap out of 3e.&nbsp; Weekly, sometimes twice weekly games for the better part of ten years, plus all the time I spend here and elsewhere.&nbsp; I was REALLY burned out of D&amp;D by the end of that.&nbsp; So, I managed to convince my wonderful group to try out a bunch of weird, indie games.&nbsp; Played a bunch and read a whole bunch more.&nbsp; That kinda got me back in the mood for D&amp;D.&nbsp; I find myself jonesing for D&amp;D again, so, that's what we're currently playing.&nbsp; My advice, take a long break.&nbsp; Don't play any D&amp;D for a while and stretch out the legs for a while.&nbsp; It sounds to me like you're in a rut and just need some freshness.&nbsp; Despite all the hullabaloo, I really don't find 4e all that much different from 3e at the end of the day.&nbsp; They play pretty close to the same at the table for the most part.&nbsp; ((Yeah, yeah, i can hear you pounding your keyboard from here, please stop.&nbsp; I'm just sharing an opinion with this guy, you don't have to correct me)).&nbsp; Step away from the D&amp;D cycle of gaming and get into something really different for a while.&nbsp; It might help.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5349522, member: 22779"] The danger with that though is that you further split your consumer base. While AD&D and B/E D&D were compatable, I know from anecdote at least, that lots of people refused to "cross the streams", as it were. They'd buy whichever supplement fit their system and ignored everything for the other system. I have no idea how much cross pollination was going on, but, that's certainly a concern with creating a "full" game split off from the core game. I could also see it diluting the brand as well. One setting is for X D&D, and the other setting is for Y D&D. Is it all D&D? Maybe. In the eyes of the consumer though? Probably not. Not saying you're wrong. Just putting out a possible reason why this might not have flown. Now this? This I totally understand. I've just spent the last year hopping between a bunch of different systems. Five or so different systems, three different DM's, plus myself, just to shake off the cobwebs. Like you, I'd played the crap out of 3e. Weekly, sometimes twice weekly games for the better part of ten years, plus all the time I spend here and elsewhere. I was REALLY burned out of D&D by the end of that. So, I managed to convince my wonderful group to try out a bunch of weird, indie games. Played a bunch and read a whole bunch more. That kinda got me back in the mood for D&D. I find myself jonesing for D&D again, so, that's what we're currently playing. My advice, take a long break. Don't play any D&D for a while and stretch out the legs for a while. It sounds to me like you're in a rut and just need some freshness. Despite all the hullabaloo, I really don't find 4e all that much different from 3e at the end of the day. They play pretty close to the same at the table for the most part. ((Yeah, yeah, i can hear you pounding your keyboard from here, please stop. I'm just sharing an opinion with this guy, you don't have to correct me)). Step away from the D&D cycle of gaming and get into something really different for a while. It might help. [/QUOTE]

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