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<blockquote data-quote="Chrono22" data-source="post: 5352582" data-attributes="member: 86638"><p>Yep^</p><p>Advertisements don't sell D&D, rulebooks don't sell D&D.</p><p><s>DMs</s> Good DMs sell D&D. The best DMs aren't casual players. They are dedicated players, they are "hard core" gamers.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say all hard core players are good DMs, but I've never met a casual player that was also a good DM. Being a good DM, IME, requires a certain level of investment, dedication, and focus that can't be found in a casual player.</p><p></p><p>So I think WotC should rethink their marketing strategy. D&D will never have mass appeal like other games... unless they try to remove those elements that make it D&D in the first place. You know, the parts where having an imagination, time management skills, and a sense of story telling are required. But that's not a road I want them to take.</p><p></p><p>The hardcore niche is the niche that does the most work expanding the player base. I've seen loads of casual players come and go, and for the most part they have lousy retention. But the dedicated players just keep coming back for more, and they bring friends.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chrono22, post: 5352582, member: 86638"] Yep^ Advertisements don't sell D&D, rulebooks don't sell D&D. [s]DMs[/s] Good DMs sell D&D. The best DMs aren't casual players. They are dedicated players, they are "hard core" gamers. That's not to say all hard core players are good DMs, but I've never met a casual player that was also a good DM. Being a good DM, IME, requires a certain level of investment, dedication, and focus that can't be found in a casual player. So I think WotC should rethink their marketing strategy. D&D will never have mass appeal like other games... unless they try to remove those elements that make it D&D in the first place. You know, the parts where having an imagination, time management skills, and a sense of story telling are required. But that's not a road I want them to take. The hardcore niche is the niche that does the most work expanding the player base. I've seen loads of casual players come and go, and for the most part they have lousy retention. But the dedicated players just keep coming back for more, and they bring friends. [/QUOTE]
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