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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4705033" data-attributes="member: 80487">The notion that either the referee's or the character-player's role ought to be directly analogous to a novelist's was (in my experience) pretty ludicrous for at least the first half of the hobby's existence.I remember cooking up a game based on literary/dramatic assumptions and getting the response that the fundamentally different concept was "cool, but too hard for any but the most advanced gamers to get." (That's a paraphrase, but all these years later perhaps the irony is clear enough.)The field of "story-telling" games seems to have come rebelliously into its own even as conformity became a virtue among D&Ders. It is the mode that dare not name itself.Character Concept (Old Style): Woodwind has ambitions to become a Wizard who rides a dragon and wields a Staff of Wizardry, leading the Zebra Riders to recovery of the ancient frontiers of the Silver Empire.Character Concept (New Style): Woodwind shall become ...Ditto Cadfan's ... solipsism? How does it matter whether Tobruk or Minas Tirith is put in hex 1350? Once it is placed, and established as not teleporting, that is the lay of the land. That this can be so hard to grasp suggests a gulf of fundamentally different conception.</blockquote>