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<blockquote data-quote="sheadunne" data-source="post: 6130998" data-attributes="member: 27570">I did not say you don't dodge, I said, &quot;dodging a single attack.&quot; It's a phrase not a single word. Just as the SRD quote is a phrase, &quot;dodge area attacks.&quot;Potato/Potato. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> There is no difference between defending against touch attacks and defending against an arrow or bolt. There's a big difference between defending against an area effect and a touch attack. As I said earlier, I have no problem with using AC instead of touch AC. I do have issue with using a Reflex save which creates all sorts of potential issues, aside from the fluff. Anyone is free to change the game however they like, doesn't effect me at all. I personally wouldn't make the change in that direction, not with evasion being plentiful and how easy it is to boost your saves. It would be rare for the gamers I play with to even need to roll (yes a 1 wouldn't be auto failure by then thanks to feats, spells, and magic items) against a reflex save by the time Disintegrate enters the picture. A touch attack still has meat through all levels and doesn't get ignored like saves do. I guess incorporeal creatures just got a lot less scary.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sheadunne, post: 6130998, member: 27570"] I did not say you don't dodge, I said, "dodging a single attack." It's a phrase not a single word. Just as the SRD quote is a phrase, "dodge area attacks." Potato/Potato. :) There is no difference between defending against touch attacks and defending against an arrow or bolt. There's a big difference between defending against an area effect and a touch attack. As I said earlier, I have no problem with using AC instead of touch AC. I do have issue with using a Reflex save which creates all sorts of potential issues, aside from the fluff. Anyone is free to change the game however they like, doesn't effect me at all. I personally wouldn't make the change in that direction, not with evasion being plentiful and how easy it is to boost your saves. It would be rare for the gamers I play with to even need to roll (yes a 1 wouldn't be auto failure by then thanks to feats, spells, and magic items) against a reflex save by the time Disintegrate enters the picture. A touch attack still has meat through all levels and doesn't get ignored like saves do. I guess incorporeal creatures just got a lot less scary. [/QUOTE]

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