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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8636239" data-attributes="member: 6790260">There's probably no single answer. Few things of this nature are simple enough for that.But I think we can all agree that &quot;just stop saying anything and hope no one notices&quot; is almost certainly not the correct response most of the time.I mean, a Fighter who becomes a literal lord, who goes to war actually seems like more of a &quot;Warlord&quot; than the Battlemaster Fighter, in my humble opinion.But honestly, no, I strongly disagree. There's nothing like the Avenger, Warden, or Shaman--and the &quot;&quot;&quot;avenger&quot;&quot;&quot; and &quot;&quot;&quot;warden&quot;&quot;&quot; Paladins are practically mocking the classes they claim to be, looking essentially nothing like either.&quot;Flipping and flopping&quot; back and forth...doesn't meet the thing I described. Nor does it match, as I noted, the explicit statement that the &quot;warlord fighter&quot; would have martial healing....only for the end result to not do that thing. The Battle Master Fighter doesn't heal anyone, it can't grant saving throws to anyone, and Commander's Strike is hilariously weak as far as ally-empowerment goes. The Battle Master is, in fact, better at imitating a controller from 4e than a leader, because it has plenty of relatively-useful tools for repositioning allies and applying forced movement to enemies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8636239, member: 6790260"] There's probably no single answer. Few things of this nature are simple enough for that. But I think we can all agree that "just stop saying anything and hope no one notices" is almost certainly [I]not[/I] the correct response most of the time. I mean, a Fighter who becomes a [I]literal lord, who goes to war[/I] actually seems like more of a "Warlord" than the Battlemaster Fighter, in my humble opinion. But honestly, no, I strongly disagree. There's nothing like the Avenger, Warden, or Shaman--and the """avenger""" and """warden""" Paladins are practically [I]mocking[/I] the classes they claim to be, looking essentially nothing like either. "Flipping and flopping" back and forth...doesn't meet the thing I described. Nor does it match, as I noted, the [I]explicit statement[/I] that the "warlord fighter" would have martial healing....only for the end result to not do that thing. The Battle Master Fighter doesn't heal anyone, it can't grant saving throws to anyone, and Commander's Strike is [I]hilariously weak[/I] as far as ally-empowerment goes. The Battle Master is, in fact, better at imitating a [I]controller[/I] from 4e than a leader, because it has plenty of relatively-useful tools for repositioning allies and applying forced movement to enemies. [/QUOTE]

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