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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 7967034" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>If I had to make some predictions... I think enough people have given their tacit approval here on the boards to the psi-die that it will be a good indication of its acceptance by the gamer populace at large. Which means that in whatever form the next "player-facing" book we get... whether that be a full Xanathar-esque player-splat, or a planar handbook with some player-facing material (which I think will probably come out in late autumn following the release of early autumn's planar adventure path)... we will see the Psi Knight, Soulknife, Psionic Soul, and the Wild Talent feat (I don't think the Telepath, Telekinetic, Tower of Iron Will or Metabolic Control feats will appear, those features will end up being used elsewhere) for use with that planar adventure. Mainly so that players who want to roll githzerai and githyanki can have psionic options available to them. This will also give WotC time to see how those three psionic options play in action.</p><p></p><p>That would allow them plenty of time to determine... in preparation for a Dark Sun setting release in 2021... whether a full psion class is warranted for that setting book. And thus also give plenty of time to design and playtest that class in early 2021 (right around the time where we are now.)</p><p></p><p>Finally... one other prediction... if they do decide to go ahead with a psion, I would expect to see two things:</p><p></p><p>First... the psi-die <em>would</em> be a part of the design. Probably a larger part actually, maybe even incorporating additional dice that also go up and down in size. But in order to tie the psion to the other psionic subclasses released this year... I really think they would have to maintain that style of mechanic rather than change to spell points or something else. That does no one any good (except for the people who hated the psi-die mechanic.)</p><p></p><p>And second... I would imagine that the full psion class would probably be build more along the lines of the warlock chassis, rather than the nine spell level wizard/cleric/sorcerer/druid/bard chassis. One, because we would already have that nine-spell level chassis in the Psionic Soul, and two, the concept of Invocations (side abilities running parallel to spell slots) are the kinds of things that could readily be the kinds of features that the psi-die manipulates. This is where we could probably see the talents listed in the four other feats they made showing up, as the four subclasses of the Psion. So you'd have a Psion spell list with all the standard spells that are psionic in nature (plus several more new ones I'm sure)... and then the list of "Talents" (IE Invocations) that the Psion can use via the psi-die for Telepaths, Telekinetics, Metabolic Controllers, and Iron Will subclasses.</p><p></p><p>Now the case could be made by some that even this Psion would be too close to the Psionic Soul sorcerer to really be necessary... but that'll end up being what the six months between the player-facing book and the testing of a full class for Dark Sun will be used for... seeing how most players really feel and if they really care. For that? I have absolutely no idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 7967034, member: 7006"] If I had to make some predictions... I think enough people have given their tacit approval here on the boards to the psi-die that it will be a good indication of its acceptance by the gamer populace at large. Which means that in whatever form the next "player-facing" book we get... whether that be a full Xanathar-esque player-splat, or a planar handbook with some player-facing material (which I think will probably come out in late autumn following the release of early autumn's planar adventure path)... we will see the Psi Knight, Soulknife, Psionic Soul, and the Wild Talent feat (I don't think the Telepath, Telekinetic, Tower of Iron Will or Metabolic Control feats will appear, those features will end up being used elsewhere) for use with that planar adventure. Mainly so that players who want to roll githzerai and githyanki can have psionic options available to them. This will also give WotC time to see how those three psionic options play in action. That would allow them plenty of time to determine... in preparation for a Dark Sun setting release in 2021... whether a full psion class is warranted for that setting book. And thus also give plenty of time to design and playtest that class in early 2021 (right around the time where we are now.) Finally... one other prediction... if they do decide to go ahead with a psion, I would expect to see two things: First... the psi-die [I]would[/I] be a part of the design. Probably a larger part actually, maybe even incorporating additional dice that also go up and down in size. But in order to tie the psion to the other psionic subclasses released this year... I really think they would have to maintain that style of mechanic rather than change to spell points or something else. That does no one any good (except for the people who hated the psi-die mechanic.) And second... I would imagine that the full psion class would probably be build more along the lines of the warlock chassis, rather than the nine spell level wizard/cleric/sorcerer/druid/bard chassis. One, because we would already have that nine-spell level chassis in the Psionic Soul, and two, the concept of Invocations (side abilities running parallel to spell slots) are the kinds of things that could readily be the kinds of features that the psi-die manipulates. This is where we could probably see the talents listed in the four other feats they made showing up, as the four subclasses of the Psion. So you'd have a Psion spell list with all the standard spells that are psionic in nature (plus several more new ones I'm sure)... and then the list of "Talents" (IE Invocations) that the Psion can use via the psi-die for Telepaths, Telekinetics, Metabolic Controllers, and Iron Will subclasses. Now the case could be made by some that even this Psion would be too close to the Psionic Soul sorcerer to really be necessary... but that'll end up being what the six months between the player-facing book and the testing of a full class for Dark Sun will be used for... seeing how most players really feel and if they really care. For that? I have absolutely no idea. [/QUOTE]
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