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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7969071" data-attributes="member: 22779">Oh, hey, please don't think I'm trying to argue anything here.&nbsp; Just observing.&nbsp; It's always interesting to me how people get to where they are coming from.&nbsp; I find that I can best communicate when I an put myself in the same shoes, so to speak.I mean, I was arguing about VSM requirements in another thread, and I realized why I was having such a tough time of it.&nbsp; I tend to look at the results, I really don't care about how you get there.&nbsp; So, if a wizard wiggles his fingers and casts a Charm Person, or a Psion thinks real hard and a chime sounds and manifests a Charm Person, to me, those are pretty much the same thing - they're both &quot;casting&quot; Charm Person.&nbsp; How you got there I couldn't really care less.Heh, I forgot about Expedition to Barrier Peaks.&nbsp; Or, rather, I forgot that there was a mind flayer in it.&nbsp; Been a REALLY long time since I played that.&nbsp; I remember the robots and the laser guns though.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Seriously though, if you think Against the Giants isn't THE iconic D&amp;D module, well, I'm not sure what to say.&nbsp; It's ranked as the #1 (well GDQ is) module by Dragon, so, I'm going to say that Against the Giants is probably one of the most iconic D&amp;D adventures.&nbsp; Right up there with Keep on the Borderland.&nbsp; But, [USER=6906155]@Paul Farquhar[/USER], again, this gets back to what experiences people had.&nbsp; Other than the Baldur's Gate games, I never played any D&amp;D computer game.&nbsp; So, again, it falls outside of my experience.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7969071, member: 22779"] Oh, hey, please don't think I'm trying to argue anything here. Just observing. It's always interesting to me how people get to where they are coming from. I find that I can best communicate when I an put myself in the same shoes, so to speak. I mean, I was arguing about VSM requirements in another thread, and I realized why I was having such a tough time of it. I tend to look at the results, I really don't care about how you get there. So, if a wizard wiggles his fingers and casts a Charm Person, or a Psion thinks real hard and a chime sounds and manifests a Charm Person, to me, those are pretty much the same thing - they're both "casting" Charm Person. How you got there I couldn't really care less. Heh, I forgot about Expedition to Barrier Peaks. Or, rather, I forgot that there was a mind flayer in it. Been a REALLY long time since I played that. I remember the robots and the laser guns though. :D Seriously though, if you think Against the Giants isn't THE iconic D&D module, well, I'm not sure what to say. It's ranked as the #1 (well GDQ is) module by Dragon, so, I'm going to say that Against the Giants is probably one of the most iconic D&D adventures. Right up there with Keep on the Borderland. But, [USER=6906155]@Paul Farquhar[/USER], again, this gets back to what experiences people had. Other than the Baldur's Gate games, I never played any D&D computer game. So, again, it falls outside of my experience. [/QUOTE]

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