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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7969539" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Oh, now that is an interesting idea. </p><p></p><p>Arcane Trickster yoinks a spell as it is being cast. </p><p></p><p>Psion yoinks it while you are concentrating on it. </p><p></p><p>Thematic and very different abilities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I had Mold Earth and Shape Water because "move things with your mind" but both could easily be dropped. </p><p></p><p>I was not aware of Encode Thoughts from Ravinica, might need to go look at that spell. Light... hmmm, this might be a personal thing, but making light with your mind just seems like the hardest thing to do. But, if light were a by-product of psionics, I could see an easy mastery of controlling that. </p><p></p><p>I thought of giving them True Strike, but I don't like it, so I don't give it to anybody.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>To the sci-fi vs fantasy debate. It gets weird, especially if you start adding in horror. (All of this is just my opinion and not given with an overabundance of planning and defining, just thinking out loud)</p><p></p><p>The big thing that usually makes the difference for sci-fi is the aspect of time. If it is in the future it is generally sci-fi. There is sci-fi set in the past, but generally those were written in the past, and at the time of their writing, were focusing on the near future or present day. You could have hunter's in tribal clothes using wooden spears to fight back monsters from the forest, and if the backdrop is New York after a nuclear holocaust, and the Monsters can be thought of as mutants, then it is sci-fi. Because it happens in the future. </p><p></p><p>This is actually where a lot of fantasy and sci-fi end up mixing, when we see things that are generally fantasy tropes, but set in the far future after the apocalypse. You get help from a pixie in the caverns, summoned by a glowing crystal with wires. We, as the audience, see clues that the "pixie" is just an AI hologram, but the imagery is decidedly fantasy. </p><p></p><p>With Fantasy, you are generally talking about Magic. You can have fantasy set in the modern day, on a space colony, ect. The timeline doesn't matter as much, Fantasy has magic. </p><p></p><p>And this is where it gets tricky, because "magic" is a hard thing to define. </p><p></p><p>Take for instance, The Nightmare on Elm Street. Freddy Krueger is a killer who attacks from your dreams, he lives inside the dream realm. That is fantastical, that is "magic" to a strong extent, but presented as a Horror story. Jason and Meyers are similar. They just don't die. And there is no real explanation for it, they just can't seem to be killed. that is again, a type of "magic" in the loosest sense of the word. </p><p></p><p>But, look at "psychics". This method of explanation takes "magic" and turns it into "science". It couches the fantastical into terms of science language. So, maybe Freddy isn't using Magic, maybe he is a Psychic projection. Maybe you could gain psychic powers from a machine, or from a robotic enhancement to your brain. </p><p></p><p>Psionics is frustrating to a degree because it takes the same things that were magical and tries to make them scientific, which bridges it away from Fantasy. Not because Fantasy and Sci-fi can't mix. One is measured more in time and the other in terms of magic, but because Psychics are a way to make things less magical, which makes them less of Fantasy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7969539, member: 6801228"] Oh, now that is an interesting idea. Arcane Trickster yoinks a spell as it is being cast. Psion yoinks it while you are concentrating on it. Thematic and very different abilities. I had Mold Earth and Shape Water because "move things with your mind" but both could easily be dropped. I was not aware of Encode Thoughts from Ravinica, might need to go look at that spell. Light... hmmm, this might be a personal thing, but making light with your mind just seems like the hardest thing to do. But, if light were a by-product of psionics, I could see an easy mastery of controlling that. I thought of giving them True Strike, but I don't like it, so I don't give it to anybody. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To the sci-fi vs fantasy debate. It gets weird, especially if you start adding in horror. (All of this is just my opinion and not given with an overabundance of planning and defining, just thinking out loud) The big thing that usually makes the difference for sci-fi is the aspect of time. If it is in the future it is generally sci-fi. There is sci-fi set in the past, but generally those were written in the past, and at the time of their writing, were focusing on the near future or present day. You could have hunter's in tribal clothes using wooden spears to fight back monsters from the forest, and if the backdrop is New York after a nuclear holocaust, and the Monsters can be thought of as mutants, then it is sci-fi. Because it happens in the future. This is actually where a lot of fantasy and sci-fi end up mixing, when we see things that are generally fantasy tropes, but set in the far future after the apocalypse. You get help from a pixie in the caverns, summoned by a glowing crystal with wires. We, as the audience, see clues that the "pixie" is just an AI hologram, but the imagery is decidedly fantasy. With Fantasy, you are generally talking about Magic. You can have fantasy set in the modern day, on a space colony, ect. The timeline doesn't matter as much, Fantasy has magic. And this is where it gets tricky, because "magic" is a hard thing to define. Take for instance, The Nightmare on Elm Street. Freddy Krueger is a killer who attacks from your dreams, he lives inside the dream realm. That is fantastical, that is "magic" to a strong extent, but presented as a Horror story. Jason and Meyers are similar. They just don't die. And there is no real explanation for it, they just can't seem to be killed. that is again, a type of "magic" in the loosest sense of the word. But, look at "psychics". This method of explanation takes "magic" and turns it into "science". It couches the fantastical into terms of science language. So, maybe Freddy isn't using Magic, maybe he is a Psychic projection. Maybe you could gain psychic powers from a machine, or from a robotic enhancement to your brain. Psionics is frustrating to a degree because it takes the same things that were magical and tries to make them scientific, which bridges it away from Fantasy. Not because Fantasy and Sci-fi can't mix. One is measured more in time and the other in terms of magic, but because Psychics are a way to make things less magical, which makes them less of Fantasy. [/QUOTE]
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