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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8946100" data-attributes="member: 6877472">The 3e Monk has been analyzed to death, and like every iteration of the class, is hotly contested to this very day.&nbsp; I remember BESM 3.5, when trying to analyze the power level of each class to gauge how strong their new classes should be, rated the Monk as the most powerful by a staggering degree because they got new abilities at each level.&nbsp; And even if some of those abilities weren't very strong, you still earned more than other classes.What they missed, obviously, was how those abilities would be used in play.&nbsp; I've had long arguments with people who honestly believed Monk was some kind of OP, caster killer class that dominated in their games.&nbsp; How?&nbsp; I have no idea.&nbsp; Was the campaign magic rich?&nbsp; Magic poor?&nbsp; Did the Monk get good support?&nbsp; What Feats did they take?&nbsp; Did they roll stats?&nbsp; Custom races?&nbsp; Did they misunderstand the rules?&nbsp; Are their players super lucky or cheating cheaters?No clue. It quickly became one of those dreaded arguments, on the level of politics or religion, where it wasn't about facts, it was about how people felt about the class.&nbsp; This persists to this day with 5e Monks.You can bring out math and a power point presentation, but if someone feels a Monk is good, nothing will change that opinion.This Monk rant has been brought to you by the letter J.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8946100, member: 6877472"] The 3e Monk has been analyzed to death, and like every iteration of the class, is hotly contested to this very day. I remember BESM 3.5, when trying to analyze the power level of each class to gauge how strong their new classes should be, rated the Monk as the most powerful by a staggering degree because they got new abilities at each level. And even if some of those abilities weren't very strong, you still earned more than other classes. What they missed, obviously, was how those abilities would be used in play. I've had long arguments with people who honestly believed Monk was some kind of OP, caster killer class that dominated in their games. How? I have no idea. Was the campaign magic rich? Magic poor? Did the Monk get good support? What Feats did they take? Did they roll stats? Custom races? Did they misunderstand the rules? Are their players super lucky or cheating cheaters? No clue. It quickly became one of those dreaded arguments, on the level of politics or religion, where it wasn't about [I]facts[/I], it was about how people [I]felt[/I] about the class. This persists to this day with 5e Monks. You can bring out math and a power point presentation, but if someone [I]feels [/I]a Monk is good, nothing will change that opinion. This Monk rant has been brought to you by the letter J. [/QUOTE]

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