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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6353660" data-attributes="member: 6775031">Setting aside the obvious counter-argument that you've heard a million times, I never actually said that HP are meat. That's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. I just said that they're objective. However your luck/skill/toughness/etc are reflected in your ability to not be killed by swords, it is a fact of the world that doesn't change depending on who looks at it. It's simply true that your 100hp fighter or elephant can withstand that number of "hits" before dropping. You can pretend that it doesn't exist - that it's simply narrative convention, which doesn't correspond to anything - but you would be wrong.Actually, Profession is an even better example of pure simulation. You go to work, do stuff, and depending on how well you do it means you earn more or less money. I can't imagine a better summary of how a street performer, crafts-person, or merchant would actually go about making money.Granted, that's an extreme overview, but it factors in both skill (the modifier) and luck (the die roll), in an extremely elegant manner. It's not perfectly accurate to the real world, of course, but that was never a condition for process-sim.If you replaced hit points with wounds/vitality, that would not make the game any more or less narrative or sim. It would still be objectively true that you can take X amount of sword "hits" before dropping, except suddenly the system is more detailed with penalties and variable healing rates or whatever.You don't need details for something to be sim. You just need objective causality.</blockquote>

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