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<blockquote data-quote="amethal" data-source="post: 8964232" data-attributes="member: 22784"><p>If I'm remembering things correctly, the Miniatures Handbook invented the concept of the swift (and immediate?) action. </p><p></p><p>Seemed like a useful thing to have included in the 3.5 Players Handbook, but instead they had to keep explaining it in every new splatbook that used it - although it is in the 3.5 SRD, so maybe I am misremembering?</p><p></p><p>3.5 was a strange mixture of helpful changes (beefing up the Ranger, moving a few key class abilities of other classes to 2nd level to make 1-level dipping less attractive), neutral changes (horses now take up 2x2 space instead of 2x1) and changes that arguably made things worse (I seem to remember changes to the Charge description and/or the Ride-By Attack feat meant that the latter didn't actually work as written).</p><p></p><p>I bought the 3.5 Players Handbook as soon as it came out, but couldn't see any reason to buy the other two books - although I eventually gave in and did so, since there were enough tiny changes that the cumulative effect eventually became too much for me to ignore.</p><p></p><p>I suppose it was good practice for switching to Pathfinder - I am still occasionally finding changes to 3.5 there!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amethal, post: 8964232, member: 22784"] If I'm remembering things correctly, the Miniatures Handbook invented the concept of the swift (and immediate?) action. Seemed like a useful thing to have included in the 3.5 Players Handbook, but instead they had to keep explaining it in every new splatbook that used it - although it is in the 3.5 SRD, so maybe I am misremembering? 3.5 was a strange mixture of helpful changes (beefing up the Ranger, moving a few key class abilities of other classes to 2nd level to make 1-level dipping less attractive), neutral changes (horses now take up 2x2 space instead of 2x1) and changes that arguably made things worse (I seem to remember changes to the Charge description and/or the Ride-By Attack feat meant that the latter didn't actually work as written). I bought the 3.5 Players Handbook as soon as it came out, but couldn't see any reason to buy the other two books - although I eventually gave in and did so, since there were enough tiny changes that the cumulative effect eventually became too much for me to ignore. I suppose it was good practice for switching to Pathfinder - I am still occasionally finding changes to 3.5 there! [/QUOTE]
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