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<blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4993701" data-attributes="member: 66434"><p>A known destination is a form of railroad. My opinion on rpgs differs because I do not see them as the same type of entertainment form as novels or movies. These entertainment forms are passive in nature, the reader or viewer takes in the experience that the creator wants to present. Those enjoying a book or movie have no opportunity to affect any changes to what is read or watched. </p><p> </p><p>An rpg is an active entertainment form. The game part of rpg implys that the outcome of the experience is not known at the start. </p><p> </p><p>The game part is the big difference for me. Lets take another game instead of an rpg to substitute as an example. Suppose our group is watching a baseball game on TV. The game is exciting and close. Both teams are very good and we don't know who will win. Assuming we enjoy watching televised baseball, a large part of the attraction is not knowing who will win. </p><p> </p><p>Let us change the scenario a bit. Assume we are watching the same game but this time it is from a DVR recording. We know from the announcement on the news that team A won 7-6 but we do not know how the score ended up that way. We can still watch the whole game to see how it played out and satisfy the baseball statistician geek needs of the group but the spark of excitement just isn't there. We know the outcome of the game so team B having two men on with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth isn't a nailbiting experience. Based on the final score we know that the man currently at bat is not going to get so much as a base hit. </p><p> </p><p>I want rpgs to have the excitement of a live game. Playing towards a known end just doesn't satisfy the gaming need for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExploderWizard, post: 4993701, member: 66434"] A known destination is a form of railroad. My opinion on rpgs differs because I do not see them as the same type of entertainment form as novels or movies. These entertainment forms are passive in nature, the reader or viewer takes in the experience that the creator wants to present. Those enjoying a book or movie have no opportunity to affect any changes to what is read or watched. An rpg is an active entertainment form. The game part of rpg implys that the outcome of the experience is not known at the start. The game part is the big difference for me. Lets take another game instead of an rpg to substitute as an example. Suppose our group is watching a baseball game on TV. The game is exciting and close. Both teams are very good and we don't know who will win. Assuming we enjoy watching televised baseball, a large part of the attraction is not knowing who will win. Let us change the scenario a bit. Assume we are watching the same game but this time it is from a DVR recording. We know from the announcement on the news that team A won 7-6 but we do not know how the score ended up that way. We can still watch the whole game to see how it played out and satisfy the baseball statistician geek needs of the group but the spark of excitement just isn't there. We know the outcome of the game so team B having two men on with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth isn't a nailbiting experience. Based on the final score we know that the man currently at bat is not going to get so much as a base hit. I want rpgs to have the excitement of a live game. Playing towards a known end just doesn't satisfy the gaming need for me. [/QUOTE]
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