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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5001911" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>No. We are (or I am) limiting this discussion to the appropriate definition of game out of the possible definitions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, when I say that there is a lot of wind blowing outside, how dare I exclude all of those other possible definitions! When I say that D&D is a game, how dare I not also consider it quarry for hunting!</p><p></p><p>A word can have multiple definitions. That does not make those definitions coequal, nor appropriate to all discussion, nor does it mean that those definitions are referring to the same thing. </p><p></p><p>I can <em><strong>bear</strong></em> to have a discussion about a <strong><em>bear</em></strong>, but I'd be an idiot to assume that both "bear"s mean the same, simply because the word "bear" is given more than one meaning.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: To be clear, if you want to claim that Hussar's (thus far unsupported by an actual ruleset) "game" in which the end is known, and in which the activity has nothing to do with the outcome of the goals, is "an amusement or pastime" (as in "children's games") I will certainly agree. I believe I have said it was an amusement or pastime already. But it is not a game in the sense that Monopoly, RCFG, or D&D are games: "a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5001911, member: 18280"] No. We are (or I am) limiting this discussion to the appropriate definition of game out of the possible definitions. So, when I say that there is a lot of wind blowing outside, how dare I exclude all of those other possible definitions! When I say that D&D is a game, how dare I not also consider it quarry for hunting! A word can have multiple definitions. That does not make those definitions coequal, nor appropriate to all discussion, nor does it mean that those definitions are referring to the same thing. I can [I][B]bear[/B][/I] to have a discussion about a [B][I]bear[/I][/B], but I'd be an idiot to assume that both "bear"s mean the same, simply because the word "bear" is given more than one meaning. EDIT: To be clear, if you want to claim that Hussar's (thus far unsupported by an actual ruleset) "game" in which the end is known, and in which the activity has nothing to do with the outcome of the goals, is "an amusement or pastime" (as in "children's games") I will certainly agree. I believe I have said it was an amusement or pastime already. But it is not a game in the sense that Monopoly, RCFG, or D&D are games: "a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators." RC [/QUOTE]
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