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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5004612" data-attributes="member: 18280">Hmmm.&nbsp; I guess you and I write adventures differently, then.&nbsp; Or you must imagine that adventure means &quot;a sequents of events that must occur in a specified order&quot;.&nbsp; As Ariosto has already (correctly) noted, this is not the useage which existed in early D&amp;D, nor is it the useage I am using now.&nbsp; Adventure =/= railroad.I certainly wouldn't call Keep on the Borderlands (as an excellent example) linear.&nbsp; You seem hung up on the idea that elements come from modules.&nbsp; Once they are included in the campaign milieu, however, there is absolutely no difference between elements created by the GM and elements converted by the GM.This is absolutely nonsensical.If the outcome is predetermined, then the scenario is linear.If there are several possible outcomes, and which outcome occurs is not predetermined, then the scenario is not linear.If the PCs attempt to kill Blastemall, then they either will or they will not succeed.&nbsp; The fact that the end state is binary does not make their efforts linear prior to their occurance (all scenarios are linear after the fact).&nbsp; Let us say that you are getting ready for the creation of a sandbox game.&nbsp; In order to do so, you must create a framework (setting).&nbsp; Why would you imagine that this creates a single path, frayed or otherwise?<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />Sorry, but I don't see what you are objecting to.&nbsp; I've been gaming since 1979, and I am pretty sure that I am using the term today in roughly the same way as I first used it.&nbsp; The only difference is that, now, I've given a lot more thought to the elements that go into that sandbox, and how they interrelate.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5004612, member: 18280"] Hmmm. I guess you and I write adventures differently, then. Or you must imagine that adventure means "a sequents of events that must occur in a specified order". As Ariosto has already (correctly) noted, this is not the useage which existed in early D&D, nor is it the useage I am using now. Adventure =/= railroad. I certainly wouldn't call Keep on the Borderlands (as an excellent example) linear. You seem hung up on the idea that elements come from modules. Once they are included in the campaign milieu, however, there is absolutely no difference between elements created by the GM and elements converted by the GM. This is absolutely nonsensical. If the outcome is predetermined, then the scenario is linear. If there are several possible outcomes, and which outcome occurs is not predetermined, then the scenario is not linear. If the PCs attempt to kill Blastemall, then they either will or they will not succeed. The fact that the end state is binary does not make their efforts linear [i]prior to their occurance[/i] (all scenarios are linear after the fact). Let us say that you are getting ready for the creation of a sandbox game. In order to do so, you [B][I]must[/I][/B] create a framework (setting). Why would you imagine that this creates a single path, frayed or otherwise? :erm: Sorry, but I don't see what you are objecting to. I've been gaming since 1979, and I am pretty sure that I am using the term today in roughly the same way as I first used it. The only difference is that, now, I've given a lot more thought to the elements that go into that sandbox, and how they interrelate. RC [/QUOTE]

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