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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5010909" data-attributes="member: 18280">Then why do your restatements of "what I am saying" exhibit exactly the opposite?  Including the bit about the medusa's lair?If you "totally understand what [I am] saying", why did you write:  "You are claiming that the only goals that you as a player can have during a game are the goals outlined by the game itself in order to be playing any game."?Demonstrate that you have actually read what you are responding to, and I will be happy to go into how a sandbox can have depth.  I think that the answer is pretty obvious, but then again, that doesn't make it so for all people.  If you believe "the sandbox never changes", again, it is obvious that you have either not read, or not processed, this thread.RC</blockquote>