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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5011625" data-attributes="member: 22779">The problem I'm having though is while the world may have depth, since that depth is independent of the players or the characters, how do they ... swim in those depths so to speak?&nbsp; I guess it just seems like a huge amount of work to create a world which has enough separate lines ongoing that would allow the players to find plots (arrgggh that word again) that they can sink their teeth into.&nbsp; Doesn't it resemble a sort of shotgun approach?&nbsp; You keep tossing out stuff until it sticks?Why not just ask?&nbsp; Why not start from the position that the campaign is going to focus on these characters and the events and elements that you are going to explore arise from the conversation you have with the players before designing the campaign?After all, in your method, the players become the focal point anyway.&nbsp; Why not just cut out all the extra work and then really flesh out what is going to be used at the table in the first place?I will freely admit though, that my campaigns are disposable.&nbsp; I use them once and then never use them again.&nbsp; For me, a campaign should be custom made for a particular group of players and their characters, tailored to suit their playstyles and goals.I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see the benefit in what you're doing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5011625, member: 22779"] The problem I'm having though is while the world may have depth, since that depth is independent of the players or the characters, how do they ... swim in those depths so to speak? I guess it just seems like a huge amount of work to create a world which has enough separate lines ongoing that would allow the players to find plots (arrgggh that word again) that they can sink their teeth into. Doesn't it resemble a sort of shotgun approach? You keep tossing out stuff until it sticks? Why not just ask? Why not start from the position that the campaign is going to focus on these characters and the events and elements that you are going to explore arise from the conversation you have with the players before designing the campaign? After all, in your method, the players become the focal point anyway. Why not just cut out all the extra work and then really flesh out what is going to be used at the table in the first place? I will freely admit though, that my campaigns are disposable. I use them once and then never use them again. For me, a campaign should be custom made for a particular group of players and their characters, tailored to suit their playstyles and goals. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see the benefit in what you're doing. [/QUOTE]

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