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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5014608" data-attributes="member: 18280">I can remember a formulative experience, back in early 1980, where as a PC I was following a road down a gently wooded slope and encountered a swampy area around a lake.&nbsp; That the area actually made sense sparked a crucial epiphany.&nbsp; That I could think about the world as though it really existed, and have those thoughts and the choices they lead to be validated in-game meant that I was not simply trying to read the DM's mind.&nbsp; The world did not require me to go simply where the DM wished me to.A good campaign milieu allows you to make choices on this basis, IMHO.&nbsp; The players should not simply have to guess what the GM is thinking.&nbsp; When things don't seem to make sense, it should be a clue that the players are missing an important piece of information, not that the GM didn't bother with that part of the world because &quot;the plot&quot; is following A to B to C.If the GM does not treat the world as though parts of it do not matter, the players can make decisions based on the world presented, and make those decisions with confidence.So, sure, in-game events may be a clue as to your GM's intentions if your GM is determining what the plot will be.&nbsp; But, if you are exploring the dungeons of Madbob, then what you know about Madbob might be the first thing you consider.&nbsp; Unless, of course, what you know about Madbob is only that the GM wants to steer you toward B.I am not saying your game is like that.&nbsp; But there certainly are published adventure modules that are like that in a nutshell.EDIT:&nbsp; This also reminds me of the WLD thread where GMs decide what path their players will follow through the WLD.&nbsp; WTF?&nbsp; IMHO, this is something that the players should decide, based on the information that they obtain while exploring.&nbsp; RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5014608, member: 18280"] I can remember a formulative experience, back in early 1980, where as a PC I was following a road down a gently wooded slope and encountered a swampy area around a lake. That the area [i][b]actually made sense[/b][/i][b][/b] sparked a crucial epiphany. That I could [i][b]think about the world as though it really existed, and have those thoughts and the choices they lead to be validated in-game[/b][/i][b][/b] meant that I was not simply trying to read the DM's mind. The world did not require me to go simply where the DM wished me to. A good campaign milieu allows you to make choices on this basis, IMHO. The players should not simply have to guess what the GM is thinking. When things don't seem to make sense, it should be a clue that the players are missing an important piece of information, not that the GM didn't bother with that part of the world because "the plot" is following A to B to C. [i][b]If the GM does not treat the world as though parts of it do not matter, the players can make decisions based on the world presented, and make those decisions with confidence.[/b][/i][b][/b] So, sure, in-game events may be a clue as to your GM's intentions if your GM is determining what the plot will be. But, if you are exploring the dungeons of Madbob, then what you know about Madbob might be the first thing you consider. Unless, of course, what you know about Madbob is only that the GM wants to steer you toward B. [i][b]I am not saying your game is like that.[/b][/i][b][/b] But there certainly are published adventure modules that are like that in a nutshell. EDIT: This also reminds me of the WLD thread where GMs decide what path their players will follow through the WLD. WTF? IMHO, this is something that the players should decide, based on the information that they obtain while exploring. RC [/QUOTE]

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