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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 1509005" data-attributes="member: 5171">Zappo: For my money, realism is only useful as long as it doesn't get in the way of the story.&nbsp; I'm aiming for &quot;not lousy movie&quot;-level realism, a movie where the die-hard computer geeks could say, &quot;Oh, they didn't do XXX&quot;, but they wouldn't be saying, &quot;Oh, good lord, that's embarrassing&quot; while even non-computer-lovers say, &quot;Um, that wouldn't work.&nbsp; Even I know that.&quot; But I don't want a game that completely maps realism.&nbsp; Realism is dull.&nbsp; People don't swing across the room while hanging from chandeliers much in real life, for a number of reasons, but I still want it to be viable in my games. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So... if the game can map well to the way things ought to be in a good action movie (for d20 Modern) or fantasy movie (for D&amp;D), I'm happy. d20 Modern maps well to action movies, from what I've seen, and it can map to wire-fu movies with&nbsp; different flavor-text or a few of the nice supplements out there.&nbsp; D&amp;D is a bit too self-specific, flavor-wise, to map to most fantasy movies, but it's a flavor that my buddies and I like, so we can still enjoy playing it.&nbsp; If I wanted to play a game that really mapped well to a good fantasy novel, I'd play d20 Modern with some modifications and then work in some kind of plot-based magic. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So, in the games I've played and run, at least, d20 doesn't map to what I personally know to be totally true, but it maps to the fiction and film and television I like, which means that it works for me.&nbsp; I'm not trying to do a real-life combat simulation.&nbsp; I'm trying to play &quot;Alias&quot; or &quot;Die Hard&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="takyris, post: 1509005, member: 5171"] Zappo: For my money, realism is only useful as long as it doesn't get in the way of the story. I'm aiming for "not lousy movie"-level realism, a movie where the die-hard computer geeks could say, "Oh, they didn't do XXX", but they wouldn't be saying, "Oh, good lord, that's embarrassing" while even non-computer-lovers say, "Um, that wouldn't work. Even I know that." But I don't want a game that completely maps realism. Realism is dull. People don't swing across the room while hanging from chandeliers much in real life, for a number of reasons, but I still want it to be viable in my games. :) So... if the game can map well to the way things [b]ought[/b] to be in a good action movie (for d20 Modern) or fantasy movie (for D&D), I'm happy. d20 Modern maps well to action movies, from what I've seen, and it can map to wire-fu movies with different flavor-text or a few of the nice supplements out there. D&D is a bit too self-specific, flavor-wise, to map to most fantasy movies, but it's a flavor that my buddies and I like, so we can still enjoy playing it. If I wanted to play a game that really mapped well to a good fantasy novel, I'd play d20 Modern with some modifications and then work in some kind of plot-based magic. :) So, in the games I've played and run, at least, d20 doesn't map to what I personally know to be totally true, but it maps to the fiction and film and television I like, which means that it works for me. I'm not trying to do a real-life combat simulation. I'm trying to play "Alias" or "Die Hard". [/QUOTE]

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