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<blockquote data-quote="raniE" data-source="post: 8911834" data-attributes="member: 6950907">Yes, that's part of the plan. Everything else is essentially a marketing tool for the PHB, which has always been the best seller. And it remains true for other systems as well. Lamentations of the Flame Princess is known for bizarre adventures and such. What's the company's biggest seller? Rules &amp; Magic, the core rule book. Still, after 15 years, the core book is the biggest seller. The thing is that some of those players wouldn't have been there if not for someone else buying a third part product at some point. This is what they called the Skaff effect. &quot;All marketing and sales activity in a hobby gaming genre eventually contributes to the overall success of the market share leader in that genre.&quot;As for it working or not, what we know for sure is that last time Hasbro tried to go without the OGL and third party support, they abandoned the project after 4 years and went straight back to the OGL.About 800 lbs or so. D&amp;D is far more dominant now than it was in the 90s. If an 800 lb gorilla then, it is a 1600 lb gorilla now.I have no idea what you're trying to say here, sorry.Depending on how you define fantasy, in the early 90s, with the urban fantasy games of White Wolf. But that's kind of irrelevant since that wasn't what I wrote. What I wrote was that someone who was already playing other games than D&amp;D would likely look at other games than D&amp;D if they got the urge to go play some fantasy, and that someone who was just playing D&amp;D/D20 games would very likely be going straight to standard D&amp;D if they just wanted to paly some vanilla fantasy.Not at all to the same extent. And that's another point of the strategy. Network externalities was what kept D&amp;D big, so Dancey, Skaff and others figured that if they caught even more people in the same system, the dominance would increase. Hence groing from 800 pound gorilla to 1,600 pound gorilla. Or from 400 to 800 pound gorilla if you think the 800 lb thing is more accurate now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="raniE, post: 8911834, member: 6950907"] Yes, that's part of the plan. Everything else is essentially a marketing tool for the PHB, which has always been the best seller. And it remains true for other systems as well. Lamentations of the Flame Princess is known for bizarre adventures and such. What's the company's biggest seller? Rules & Magic, the core rule book. Still, after 15 years, the core book is the biggest seller. The thing is that some of those players wouldn't have been there if not for someone else buying a third part product at some point. This is what they called the Skaff effect. [I]"All marketing and sales activity in a hobby gaming genre eventually contributes to the overall success of the market share leader in that genre."[/I] As for it working or not, what we know for sure is that last time Hasbro tried to go without the OGL and third party support, they abandoned the project after 4 years and went straight back to the OGL. About 800 lbs or so. D&D is far more dominant now than it was in the 90s. If an 800 lb gorilla then, it is a 1600 lb gorilla now. I have no idea what you're trying to say here, sorry. Depending on how you define fantasy, in the early 90s, with the urban fantasy games of White Wolf. But that's kind of irrelevant since that wasn't what I wrote. What I wrote was that someone who was already playing other games than D&D would likely look at other games than D&D if they got the urge to go play some fantasy, and that someone who was just playing D&D/D20 games would very likely be going straight to standard D&D if they just wanted to paly some vanilla fantasy. Not at all to the same extent. And that's another point of the strategy. Network externalities was what kept D&D big, so Dancey, Skaff and others figured that if they caught even more people in the same system, the dominance would increase. Hence groing from 800 pound gorilla to 1,600 pound gorilla. Or from 400 to 800 pound gorilla if you think the 800 lb thing is more accurate now. [/QUOTE]

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