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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 4049719" data-attributes="member: 15999">1) General opposition to edition churn in my hobbies2) Specific objections to 4E1) I don't enjoy playing a game thinking &quot;What rules changes would make this game better?&quot;&nbsp; I don't play softball that way.&nbsp; I don't play Scrabble that way.&nbsp; I want RPGing to be a hobby like those, where I can pick them up after 10 years and play them basically like I always did.&nbsp; I have two D&amp;D systems that I love and that are good enough to provide me with gaming enjoyment for the rest of my life.&nbsp; Getting back into that gearhead mindset of &quot;what mechanical changes would make this RPG better&quot; would leave me in a state of perpetual discontent.&nbsp; Fun comes from a great gaming group and a great adventure and a &quot;good enough&quot; ruleset.&nbsp; And if there is a really glaring problem, I'll be glad to house-rule it.&nbsp; I'm hopping off the edition treadmill, for good I think.&nbsp; 4E would be for me if neither 3.5 nor any previous edition was &quot;good enough&quot; and if it looked promising. 2) I don't like most of the specific changes that 4E is making.&nbsp; They're eliminating elements of D&amp;D that I really like, leaving in the worst 3E innovations, and adding some new stuff that's just silly.&nbsp; The designers comments about what they view as &quot;problems&quot; have been very revealing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 4049719, member: 15999"] 1) General opposition to edition churn in my hobbies 2) Specific objections to 4E 1) I don't enjoy playing a game thinking "What rules changes would make this game better?" I don't play softball that way. I don't play Scrabble that way. I want RPGing to be a hobby like those, where I can pick them up after 10 years and play them basically like I always did. I have two D&D systems that I love and that are good enough to provide me with gaming enjoyment for the rest of my life. Getting back into that gearhead mindset of "what mechanical changes would make this RPG better" would leave me in a state of perpetual discontent. Fun comes from a great gaming group and a great adventure and a "good enough" ruleset. And if there is a really glaring problem, I'll be glad to house-rule it. I'm hopping off the edition treadmill, for good I think. 4E would be for me if neither 3.5 nor any previous edition was "good enough" and if it looked promising. 2) I don't like most of the specific changes that 4E is making. They're eliminating elements of D&D that I really like, leaving in the worst 3E innovations, and adding some new stuff that's just silly. The designers comments about what they view as "problems" have been very revealing. [/QUOTE]

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