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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 4052147" data-attributes="member: 5122"><p>In the interest of full disclosure, I was never planning to switch to 4E completely, because I just have too much invested in 3.5, which I like very much. I have 15 or so 3.5 books on my shelf I haven't even <em>read</em> yet.</p><p></p><p>However, until recently I was planning to buy the core books so that I could play in 4E games, if either of the other two DMs in my group decided to switch. And until recently I was certainly not a 4e-hater, and actually defended WotC's decision to release a new edition so (relatively) soon after 3.5.</p><p></p><p>So what changed?</p><p></p><p>The 1-1-1-1 rule. Honestly, if that's the kind of change that WotC wants, then WotC and I have diverged way too much for me to enjoy 4E, even as a player. This change actually drove me away from DDM, a game I loved, because it's just too fourth-wall-breaking for me to handle.</p><p></p><p>Again to be fair, I do have to admit that I saw signs of the divergence between my game-wants and WotC's earlier than this ... like other posters, I raised eyebrows at the anti-3.5 tone of WotC's marketing at the GenCon '07 announcement, and as the "3.5 is bad, mmm'kay" marketing continued and intensified, my unease grew.</p><p></p><p>But all that said, up until I learned of the 1-1-1-1 rule, WotC was gonna get $90 more of my money for the core 4E books. Now they won't. And given that I'm pretty much the center of my group -- in that I rarely miss sessions, and we play every session at my house, using all of my stuff -- if I am not willing to play 4E, most of my current group won't play it, either.</p><p></p><p>I imagine this is a pattern that will play out over and over and over, throughout the hobby.</p><p></p><p>But I wish WotC luck, and I wish 4E adopters luck. Personally, I'm experiencing a certain euphoria knowing that soon I'll have a complete rules-set, and won't be spending $300-plus a year on rules supplements for a long time to come.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Wilder, post: 4052147, member: 5122"] In the interest of full disclosure, I was never planning to switch to 4E completely, because I just have too much invested in 3.5, which I like very much. I have 15 or so 3.5 books on my shelf I haven't even [i]read[/i] yet. However, until recently I was planning to buy the core books so that I could play in 4E games, if either of the other two DMs in my group decided to switch. And until recently I was certainly not a 4e-hater, and actually defended WotC's decision to release a new edition so (relatively) soon after 3.5. So what changed? The 1-1-1-1 rule. Honestly, if that's the kind of change that WotC wants, then WotC and I have diverged way too much for me to enjoy 4E, even as a player. This change actually drove me away from DDM, a game I loved, because it's just too fourth-wall-breaking for me to handle. Again to be fair, I do have to admit that I saw signs of the divergence between my game-wants and WotC's earlier than this ... like other posters, I raised eyebrows at the anti-3.5 tone of WotC's marketing at the GenCon '07 announcement, and as the "3.5 is bad, mmm'kay" marketing continued and intensified, my unease grew. But all that said, up until I learned of the 1-1-1-1 rule, WotC was gonna get $90 more of my money for the core 4E books. Now they won't. And given that I'm pretty much the center of my group -- in that I rarely miss sessions, and we play every session at my house, using all of my stuff -- if I am not willing to play 4E, most of my current group won't play it, either. I imagine this is a pattern that will play out over and over and over, throughout the hobby. But I wish WotC luck, and I wish 4E adopters luck. Personally, I'm experiencing a certain euphoria knowing that soon I'll have a complete rules-set, and won't be spending $300-plus a year on rules supplements for a long time to come. [/QUOTE]
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