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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 4053194" data-attributes="member: 5038">I have not invested a lot of money into Third Edition (although there is currently about $300-500 worth of products (primarily third party) that I want to buy)1. Per encounter combat abilities2. Per encounter magic abilities3. the new skill system4. the consolidation of skills5. removal of craft, profession skills6. bards, druids, and gnomes not in the phb 17. warlord, tieflings and dragonborn in the phb 18. the new death and dying rules and keeping negative hit points9. bleeding triggering abilities.10. some of the new racial abilities.11. monster AC appears to not be broken down like in 3e.12. The Paladin smite abilities13.  Unearthed Arcana and several third companies have  mechanics that, imo,  do a better job of solving most of my problems with the 3.x rules than what we has been revealed to date.14. My players agree with the above reasons (except for one player who likes TOB and has no problem with issue 1) and don't want to switch.The above out weigh the few things that I have heard about 4e and liked.</blockquote>