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<blockquote data-quote="korjik" data-source="post: 4055095" data-attributes="member: 56755"><p>I am not sure I will or wont upgrade to 4th ed. I will take a look at it when I can ge the rules in my hands. However there are some things that make me have some apprehension about the next edition.</p><p></p><p>My biggest fear is that the rules wont be generic enough to use. The races and classes in the prior eds are pretty generic. Especially since LotR movies came out, everyone knows what an orc, dwarf, elf, etc. are. What the heck is an eladrin or a dragonborn? (rhetorical question <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) I feel that they are making the game too specific to the setting, and that I wont have the desire to retrofit the rules to my setting. </p><p></p><p>I also think WOTC is making rules that should be set by the DM, not the publisher. Having rings restricted to upper levels is something that I should do, not WOTC.</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, 4th ed should be about fixing the problems of 3rd, not throwing most of the system out and rebuilding. I think that while 4th may end up being a good game, it will have just as many flaws as 3rd ed does. Why should I spend a bunch of money for a new edition just to be where I am now.</p><p></p><p>I am extremely conflicted about the online content. If they actually have good online additional content, then that just leaves me with no internet connection at home. If the online content is nickel and diming us with stuff that should be in the books, then I will have problems staying with WOTC. </p><p></p><p>I also agree with the sentiment that the marketing for 4th ed has been very ham handed and poorly done. I have been playing D&D for 26 years now, and I am quite literally a rocket scientist. I dont need smoke blown up my backside, and I know the problems with 3rd ed as well as anyone. Treat me with respect, as a peer, not some brain-dead fanboy geek. Talk to me straight about the rules and about the testing. </p><p></p><p>When it comes right down to it tho, I will be giving 4th ed an even chance. I have already allocated the money for the core, and will have no problems buying them, after I look to see if they are worth it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="korjik, post: 4055095, member: 56755"] I am not sure I will or wont upgrade to 4th ed. I will take a look at it when I can ge the rules in my hands. However there are some things that make me have some apprehension about the next edition. My biggest fear is that the rules wont be generic enough to use. The races and classes in the prior eds are pretty generic. Especially since LotR movies came out, everyone knows what an orc, dwarf, elf, etc. are. What the heck is an eladrin or a dragonborn? (rhetorical question :) ) I feel that they are making the game too specific to the setting, and that I wont have the desire to retrofit the rules to my setting. I also think WOTC is making rules that should be set by the DM, not the publisher. Having rings restricted to upper levels is something that I should do, not WOTC. Thirdly, 4th ed should be about fixing the problems of 3rd, not throwing most of the system out and rebuilding. I think that while 4th may end up being a good game, it will have just as many flaws as 3rd ed does. Why should I spend a bunch of money for a new edition just to be where I am now. I am extremely conflicted about the online content. If they actually have good online additional content, then that just leaves me with no internet connection at home. If the online content is nickel and diming us with stuff that should be in the books, then I will have problems staying with WOTC. I also agree with the sentiment that the marketing for 4th ed has been very ham handed and poorly done. I have been playing D&D for 26 years now, and I am quite literally a rocket scientist. I dont need smoke blown up my backside, and I know the problems with 3rd ed as well as anyone. Treat me with respect, as a peer, not some brain-dead fanboy geek. Talk to me straight about the rules and about the testing. When it comes right down to it tho, I will be giving 4th ed an even chance. I have already allocated the money for the core, and will have no problems buying them, after I look to see if they are worth it. [/QUOTE]
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