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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4056337" data-attributes="member: 22779">I really don't want to derail what has been a very civil thread so far, but, I really have to question this.I mean, look at what they've pointed to - grappling for example.&nbsp; You can find literally hundreds of threads just on En World discussing grappling.&nbsp; For pages and pages.&nbsp; So, when WOTC goes ahead and says, &quot;Hey, grappling sucks, we're going to fix it&quot; are they really saying anything new?&nbsp; We as gamers have had lots and lots of problems with this issue.&nbsp; Maybe you didn't, and maybe I didn't, but that doesn't change the fact that lots and lots of people did.So, is it really wrong for WOTC to stand up and say, &quot;Hey, I know we wrote this, but, y'know, it sucks.&nbsp; We're going to fix this.&nbsp; Wait two more weeks, at Winter X and you'll find out exactly how it was fixed.&quot;Replace grapple with just about any other major issue and it's the same - Save or Die, Level draining, 15 minute adventuring day etc.&nbsp; These are all things we've talked about and have been talking about, round and round, for years.&nbsp; How is them saying, &quot;Hey, this sucks&quot; a bad thing?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4056337, member: 22779"] I really don't want to derail what has been a very civil thread so far, but, I really have to question this. I mean, look at what they've pointed to - grappling for example. You can find literally hundreds of threads just on En World discussing grappling. For pages and pages. So, when WOTC goes ahead and says, "Hey, grappling sucks, we're going to fix it" are they really saying anything new? We as gamers have had lots and lots of problems with this issue. Maybe you didn't, and maybe I didn't, but that doesn't change the fact that lots and lots of people did. So, is it really wrong for WOTC to stand up and say, "Hey, I know we wrote this, but, y'know, it sucks. We're going to fix this. Wait two more weeks, at Winter X and you'll find out exactly how it was fixed." Replace grapple with just about any other major issue and it's the same - Save or Die, Level draining, 15 minute adventuring day etc. These are all things we've talked about and have been talking about, round and round, for years. How is them saying, "Hey, this sucks" a bad thing? [/QUOTE]

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