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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3483542" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Ok, once more I shall define worldbuilding in this thread.</p><p></p><p>Worldbuilding: I define worldbuilding as an endevour to create an entire world, separate and distinct from the needs of plot or, in the case of gaming, adventure.</p><p></p><p>Thus, by my definition, Tolkien would most certainly be guilty of worldbuilding. The fact that you can excise large swaths from the text (as evinced by the movies) and still have a damn good story shows that. Howard doesn't do a whole lot of world building since much of what he writes about directly affects the text. Shadizar, while never exactly detailed, is used as an example of the lack of morals in Hyboria, just as an example.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In other words, no matter what I say, I lose. You keep moving the goalposts. Yes, it could have been. But it wasn't. There are a lot of things that could have been true, but weren't. The DM in question was so enamoured by her campaign setting and had decided that plate mail was not going to be in that setting, that she was incapbable of changing. To me, that is a failure in world building.</p><p></p><p>You cannot possibly envisage a scenario where the Warforged Ninja fits in a 7th Sea campaign, despite all evidence to the contrary. To you, the setting of 7th Sea triumphs over all considerations. No matter what I say, you will simply continue to move the goalposts.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, because the DM has spent hours on creating crap, my only options are to either put up with crap or walk? In no situation should the player complain about the situation and attempt to change the DM's mind? The DM here is elevated to infallible being, in whose world I should feel priveleged to participate? Ballocks.</p><p></p><p>If DM's were as concerned about their adventures as they were about their settings, I think we would see a lot fewer threads talking about how bad a DM someone is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3483542, member: 22779"] Ok, once more I shall define worldbuilding in this thread. Worldbuilding: I define worldbuilding as an endevour to create an entire world, separate and distinct from the needs of plot or, in the case of gaming, adventure. Thus, by my definition, Tolkien would most certainly be guilty of worldbuilding. The fact that you can excise large swaths from the text (as evinced by the movies) and still have a damn good story shows that. Howard doesn't do a whole lot of world building since much of what he writes about directly affects the text. Shadizar, while never exactly detailed, is used as an example of the lack of morals in Hyboria, just as an example. In other words, no matter what I say, I lose. You keep moving the goalposts. Yes, it could have been. But it wasn't. There are a lot of things that could have been true, but weren't. The DM in question was so enamoured by her campaign setting and had decided that plate mail was not going to be in that setting, that she was incapbable of changing. To me, that is a failure in world building. You cannot possibly envisage a scenario where the Warforged Ninja fits in a 7th Sea campaign, despite all evidence to the contrary. To you, the setting of 7th Sea triumphs over all considerations. No matter what I say, you will simply continue to move the goalposts. So, because the DM has spent hours on creating crap, my only options are to either put up with crap or walk? In no situation should the player complain about the situation and attempt to change the DM's mind? The DM here is elevated to infallible being, in whose world I should feel priveleged to participate? Ballocks. If DM's were as concerned about their adventures as they were about their settings, I think we would see a lot fewer threads talking about how bad a DM someone is. [/QUOTE]
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