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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7392881" data-attributes="member: 4937">This is the standard I use to judge a poster.Do you offer content?&nbsp; If someone yells, &quot;Help!&quot;, are you sure to find that poster in the thread, offering up some useful constructive advice or something that you can use to make your game go?Raven Crowking was simply the most helpful, most generous, most overflowing with ideas poster ENWorld has ever had.&nbsp; Sure, in this thread, he was mostly contrarian, but RC at his finest was just some guy that would come and say, &quot;Sure, I'll help your game.&quot;&nbsp; And honestly, even his contrarianism in this thread is still I think RC saying, &quot;This won't help your game.&quot;I mentioned this in the thread, but on two separate occasions I have checked out 'Light' from the library based on book reviews or glowing recommendations of this book I had to read, and I get the book home, open it up and realize after a few pages that I've tried to read this book before.&nbsp; Three times now, and I've never been able to get further than 30 pages or so.&nbsp; I can scarcely think of a book that has made me less interested in completing it, but a few years will go buy, the title of the book will drop out of my head, and I'll end up trying again because of the hype.I enjoy prose smiths, but I'd probably have to plod back to the library before you'd convince me Harrison is one, because I have no recollection of anything he said just wowing me.&nbsp; I have a bunch of Wolfe on the shelf, Vance's complete works, and among others a signed copy of Delany that I got when I went to hear him speak in person.&nbsp; And of course Vonnegut is fun, at least in small doses, and also Mieville or Letham.&nbsp; But if you don't have a good story, I'm really not that interested.&nbsp; All the pretty sentences in the world aren't worth anything, if they don't add up to something more than themselves.&nbsp; And likewise, at least by my aesthetic standards, a bunch of ordinary sentences that put together make the sort of story cavemen would tell each other around a campfire in the dark night of the world is a higher pinnacle of storytelling achievement than any number of deconstructions of what it means to have a story.&nbsp; I can appreciate writerly craftsmanship, but I love stories.There must be something about the James Tiptree award that I can't fathom.&nbsp; For example, &quot;The Knife of Never Letting Go&quot; is on my short list for dumbest books every written.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7392881, member: 4937"] This is the standard I use to judge a poster. Do you offer content? If someone yells, "Help!", are you sure to find that poster in the thread, offering up some useful constructive advice or something that you can use to make your game go? Raven Crowking was simply the most helpful, most generous, most overflowing with ideas poster ENWorld has ever had. Sure, in this thread, he was mostly contrarian, but RC at his finest was just some guy that would come and say, "Sure, I'll help your game." And honestly, even his contrarianism in this thread is still I think RC saying, "This won't help your game." I mentioned this in the thread, but on two separate occasions I have checked out 'Light' from the library based on book reviews or glowing recommendations of this book I had to read, and I get the book home, open it up and realize after a few pages that I've tried to read this book before. Three times now, and I've never been able to get further than 30 pages or so. I can scarcely think of a book that has made me less interested in completing it, but a few years will go buy, the title of the book will drop out of my head, and I'll end up trying again because of the hype. I enjoy prose smiths, but I'd probably have to plod back to the library before you'd convince me Harrison is one, because I have no recollection of anything he said just wowing me. I have a bunch of Wolfe on the shelf, Vance's complete works, and among others a signed copy of Delany that I got when I went to hear him speak in person. And of course Vonnegut is fun, at least in small doses, and also Mieville or Letham. But if you don't have a good story, I'm really not that interested. All the pretty sentences in the world aren't worth anything, if they don't add up to something more than themselves. And likewise, at least by my aesthetic standards, a bunch of ordinary sentences that put together make the sort of story cavemen would tell each other around a campfire in the dark night of the world is a higher pinnacle of storytelling achievement than any number of deconstructions of what it means to have a story. I can appreciate writerly craftsmanship, but I love stories. There must be something about the James Tiptree award that I can't fathom. For example, "The Knife of Never Letting Go" is on my short list for dumbest books every written. [/QUOTE]

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